banning the bnp at manchester uni

I am normally democratic but such people don't deserve a position in my university.

I am normally democratic but such people don't deserve a position in my university.

My heart speaking? Yes, and thankfully for our hearts speaking we aren't speaking German today and saying our daily alligence to a member of the Hitler family.

I am normally democratic but such people don't deserve a position in my university.

My heart speaking? Yes, and thankfully for our hearts speaking we aren't speaking German today and saying our daily alligence to a member of the Hitler family.

How more undemocratic can our union get? and the reason given in student direct "they pose a threat to minority groups". Me thinks everyones hearts spoke rather than their heads.

Glad everybody feels that we don't have a right to feel safe. As I said before, the vunerable in society (be it the target audience of the BNP or the people who feel threatened by them) need to be protected - a lot of people can't make their mind up on their own.

First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the communists
and I did not speak out - because I was not a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out - because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for me -
and by then there was no one left to speak out for me.

Pastor Martin Niemöller


I won't say anymore on this matter, you know my opinion and thankfully this is what is happening at our University.

Oh and Howard, such constructive comments.

Well what about people that don't agree with me?

I would like to ban smoking in public, that will come, fox hunting is a good one, good news on that point


And before you say "you'll ban everything" I can imagine that being your reply. No, i wouldn't, just the things that infringe human rights (with the right to feel safe being more important than the right to join a facist political group).

I have a personal perspective on this as it's a facist political party like the BNP who killed a lot of my family, it's kind of close to home.

I promise this is my last comment as much as you may try to get a further reply lol.

Glad everybody feels that we don't have a right to feel safe. As I said before, the vunerable in society (be it the target audience of the BNP or the people who feel threatened by them) need to be protected - a lot of people can't make their mind up on their own. What if I am all for a "murder society" where we kill people, I know, you will say "it's against the law and would be banned" but so is inciting racism, something the BNP love doing, therefore there's plenty of justification IMO.

First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the communists
and I did not speak out - because I was not a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out - because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for me -
and by then there was no one left to speak out for me.

Pastor Martin Niemöller


I won't say anymore on this matter, you know my opinion and thankfully this is what is happening at our University.

Oh and Howard, such constructive comments.

I personally don't, the University does and thank God to that. As a person disgusted by the BNPs views and somebody affected by how such views can affect others, I am truly happy by the decision.

Subjective? Opinion? Anybody that feels such a party deserves a place in our society should question what's wrong with them and why they feel like that. If somebody like Hitler had done that, got rid of his nationalistic viewpoint and changed, the world wouldn't have lost millions of people.

My University as I attend it, nothing wrong with using "my" in that sense I believe you will find.

UMIST/Manchester is such a multi-ethnical group of people if the BNP were allowed to act as a normal society, people could feel threatened. My Polish grandfather had a BNP member come onto his drive when washing his car, when he threw the leaflet on the floor and washed water over it the person got aggressive, my grandpa reminded him how he had lost most of his family to such nationalist views and the person nearly struck him (he was 84 at the time). That was threatening and I wouldn't like anybody else to feel under that pressure in the University, especially if they were new to the country as a whole. The political "beliefs" of the BNP would make these people feel unwelcome at the University and thankfully the "powers that be" have taken steps to prevent any possible institutionalised racism.

I believe you will find that the banning of certain political parties exists world wide, such as the NAZI party in Germany. I guess that makes Germany an undemocratic country? No. Sometimes people (especially those easily taken in, there are plenty out there) need to be protected.

And how do you mean "not force our views on what is right"? In happens elsewhere in our education system so this is no different - for example the compulsary teaching of Christianity in primary schools.

Next time the middle classes start because racist facists maybe we should ban them

If the BNP were allowed to exist on campus it would infringe on other peoples freedom of speech. Minority groups would hide away in fear of being targetted by the BNP.

Were you at the General Meeting? Did you vote on this motion? I was, I voted in favour of it.

I personally don't, the University does and thank God to that. As a person disgusted by the BNPs views and somebody affected by how such views can affect others, I am truly happy by the decision.