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Old 12-08-2008: 12th August 2008 09:59 #1 
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I'm applying for a typist's job in which I work at home (summer job) , and have just finished AS levels in bio chem maths and french, and i want to do a career in dentistry, the thing is though, do i say that I want to be a dentist on my CV, because I've been told that if they see that...then they can refuse you the job knowing that you want to leave...
Hmm, do i put it in or not?
 
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I don't quite get these questions, surely you are either applying for temporary job, or you are applying for a permanent job? If you are applying for a permanent job, knowing that you can only do it temporarily, then you either have to lie, or don't bother applying. If it is advertised as a temporary job, then so long as you can work for the length of time they need, put your future plans on.

Find out whether they typist job is expecting to employ permanent or temporary staff and decide whether you can apply, apply and lie, or not apply.

You are certainly not obliged to mention your future job aspirations in a CV. It would be normal to mention if you have a place at uni, but it is not mandatory - nothing in a CV is. But if you have 3 decent A levels, which presumably have if you are a serious dentistry applicant, then you can be expected to be asked about uni/career plans in any interview.
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The only thing I'd add to that is that you would be much better off applying for jobs related to dentistry in order to enhance your university application.
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To be honestly fair, I would never put what you *want* to be on a CV.

However, most employers would never refuse someone of your age a job knowing that you want to leave as that is against all employment laws! They can if there is a better candidate otherwise you have to be offered the job.

Personally, considering your age and that you have A-Levels ahead, an employer would know that you want to leave for university etc.

As I have said in previous posts, I have a part time job for a large employer working in their HR and Payroll department. We have 28,000 members of staff and allways have vaccancies, and the CVs that reach the top of the list are those that emphasise (NOT TOO MUCH) who they are, their qualities, qualificaions and skills. Also ensure you have good solid references!
 
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Oh yeah, and as Good Bloke said, try and go for a job in dentisry. It will show well when it comes to apply for the job you want at the end!!


Oh and another thing...GOOD LUCK!
 
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Originally Posted by B4DG3R

However, most employers would never refuse someone of your age a job knowing that you want to leave as that is against all employment laws! They can if there is a better candidate otherwise you have to be offered the job.


No it isn't. It is plain good business sense. Perhaps you should consult your HR colleagues.

An employer does not have to offer anyone a job, and if the only applicant is unsuitable, or is someone who is obviously not going to stay for longer than a month or two the cost of re-employing a replacement later may well put them off making an offer. It would probably be better to re-advertise, unless the need was urgent.
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However they are unable to discrimintate against someone, who might be leaving in a year if they are the best candidate. that is what I am saying.

You are not allowed to base the judgement purely on the factor they are leaving. They too, should be in with a chance under the equal oppertunites.
 
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Originally Posted by B4DG3R
However they are unable to discrimintate against someone, who might be leaving in a year if they are the best candidate. that is what I am saying.

You are not allowed to base the judgement purely on the factor they are leaving. They too, should be in with a chance under the equal oppertunites.

No. Equal opportunities legislation has nothing to say on this whatever.
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Equal Oppertunities, like CRB, is not a strict set of rules as such. It is a guideline which is to be interpreted by companies as a way of helping them create their own policies based on the type of job required

In the company that I work for, our equal oppertunities states that we can not discriminate against the period of thime they will be able to commit to the job. i know quite a few companies that also use this behind their employment structure.

Unless they are going for a job which is above the level of what we call grades, we won't EVER discriminate against the period of time alone. This can be used alongside other contributing factors.

I was talking about the company I work for, and others I know have also adopted the scheme. And I can only speak for what I know, just like EVERYBODY here on TSR. So I can't be entirely wrong with what I say if the company I work for uses this method.

Put it this way, we have a very successful team of managers who make the rules and policies, and we stick to them. I have very little say in what goes on on that side of the company. Oh, and the company is worth multi millions so it must work

I am not digging at anyone, but when I give the experiences of how the company I work for is run, I don't like being told I am wrong unless you are actually my manager
 
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B4DG3R, you must be working in an industry that has zero recruiting and training costs and absolutely no requirement for continuity in your work force - or you are happy to operate at a loss. Otherwise, to recruit and train people, which incurs costs to the company, without regard to the length of service you are going to get out of them is just plain stupid.

Because of things like recruiting and training costs, and the need for continuity in posts, companies are perfectly at liberty to refuse an offer of employment to a well qualified candidate who is only available for a short period of time. Equal Opportunities have nothing to do with it at all.
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But the way our company runs works. We have just (well at the start of the year) signed a contract for 90million with an IT company, and that is like loose chage to this organisation.

As I said I don't make the rules, just work by them. don't have a go at me about it
 
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Originally Posted by B4DG3R

I am not digging at anyone, but when I give the experiences of how the company I work for is run, I don't like being told I am wrong unless you are actually my manager

Actually you tried to give incorrect advice about the general legal aspects of this situation, irrespective of (and, initially, without mentioning) your company's unusual policies, and this may have misled people. That is why you were corrected - nobody is having a go at you. If you don't like being told you are wrong then don't give out wrong information.
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I apologise.

I thought it was obvious at the time - at which I was in shear agony (long story) - that I was on about the way my company works (so technically the info is right, just in the wrong situation! )

In retrospect, I realise that it isn't and for that I am sorry
 
 
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