A beginner's Guide To Politics

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  1. F.I's Avatar
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    Re: A beginner's Guide To Politics
    Awesome, will definitely give it a read and hopefully a rating later on!
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    Awesome, will definitely give it a read and hopefully a rating later on!
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    Surely all one needs to know about politics is that all politicians are lying, thieving scumbags? As long as you assume that when a politician is talking the sounds you hear are a stream of lies, then you will not go far wrong.
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    Re: A beginner's Guide To Politics
    (Original post by fatimafahmoune)
    Hi!i'm not english and i would like to know if this list i made it's correct.

    Labour party: Daily Mirror, The observer and finalcial times.
    Tory: Telegraph, Daily mail, Sunday express and The times.
    L.Democratic: Independant.

    Also if you could tell me if the are actually relevant news papers.

    Thanks a lot!
    Not entirely, but good try.

    Labour: Daily Mirror, Guardian, Independent, Observer.

    Conservative: Telegraph, Daily Mail, The Times (They're an odd paper, I'll say why later), Sunday Times, Daily Express, The Sun, Daily Star, NOTW (well, soon to be the Sunday Sun).

    Lib Dems: Nobody really. But this is where The Times come in. If any paper is ever complimentary to us (which is rare nowadays) it'll be The Times. Generally they are very pro-coalition.

    Any socialist party: Socialist Worker.

    The BNP in policy only will probably garner a bit of support from the Sun, Mirror, Daily Star, Express and Daily Mail.

    As you can probably guess, I prefer The Times. But this is how I see all the newspapers of the UK.
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    Hello, just to start thnak you for making the guide because it helped to get a small introduction and a base for further research.. However I have a quite stupid question concerning the debates in the house of commons shown sometimes on TV ( and I looked up some on YOUTUBE) really confuse me... In Austria we have a different form of discussions and parlament (The seating is in a round circle all different parties have their space which are currently 5) and they have their discussions with one speaker speaking for ages and then the other spaker etc.

    Now to my actual questions: What does the getting up mean (because in most cases there are people from both sides that get up for this short sequence after a speaker has finished and the other speaker starts)
    What does all the mumbling and shouting of the words mean (Hassa, here etc)

    I would be glad if you could help me a little bit!!

    Thank you in advance

    What are the PMQs and the other seatings?
    Last edited by Austria1992; 12-08-2011 at 10:42. Reason: just forgot
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    (Original post by Austria1992)
    Now to my actual questions: What does the getting up mean (because in most cases there are people from both sides that get up for this short sequence after a speaker has finished and the other speaker starts)
    This is MPs trying to 'catch the Speaker's eye'. Oftentimes the questions are arranged beforehand as Members will notify the Speaker of their intention to speak, but sometimes they'll waive their opportunity to ask their question (if, for example, a question is already asked by someone, making asking it again pointless), leaving a gap in proceedings. So by standing up, Members are informing the Speaker of their desire to ask a question.

    What does all the mumbling and shouting of the words mean (Hassa, here etc)
    The main thing they say is 'hear, hear' which signifies agreement with what the person speaking is saying. They sometimes also shout 'Oh!' or 'Shame!' to show disapproval with a statement, or surprise at something. Rest of the time it may well be jeering

    What are the PMQs and the other seatings?
    PMQs is 'Prime Minister's Questions', when the PM is scrutinised by the House every Wednesday at noon for half an hour. Every government minister has a slot every week for similar questions, arranged according to business.

    I hope that helps.
    Last edited by gladders; 12-08-2011 at 10:52.
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    Thanks a lot...

    So what is the speakers job in all of that?
    Is he a member of a certain party and how is it descided who is Speaker since is always seems to be a different person...
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    (Original post by Austria1992)
    Thanks a lot...

    So what is the speakers job in all of that?
    Is he a member of a certain party and how is it descided who is Speaker since is always seems to be a different person...
    The Speaker is an MP himself, elected from among other MPs to be their chairman, essentially - their presiding officer.

    In the interests of appearing neutral, however, upon election the Speaker renounces party membership.

    His job is to represent the House of Commons to the outside world, engage in and manage the House's programme of discussions, enforce the standing orders (i.e. the 'rules' of the House), discipline Members who misbehave, help Members who wish to scrutinise and legislate, and other things.

    Immediately after an election (or after the previous Speaker has resigned/died), the House meets and elects the Speaker. They continue until the following election when they must be re-elected.

    Additionally there are a number of deputy Speakers, also elected, who take over the job when the Speaker is busy with other things. That's probably who you see at times other than Speaker Bercow.
    Last edited by gladders; 12-08-2011 at 11:41.
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    (Original post by HarveyCanis)
    Any socialist party: Socialist Worker.
    Ever seen them supporting the WRP?
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    Ever seen them supporting the WRP?
    Never read it tbh, but I would not be surprised.
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    Never read it tbh, but I would not be surprised.
    It wouldn't happen, ever. The WRP support Gadaffi. :|
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    Nice little guide, you somehow managed to cover the whole of politics pretty well in a pretty short guide.
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    I have no knowledge of politics at all, which I am ashamed about really. I look forward to giving this a read through.
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    I have no knowledge of politics at all, which I am ashamed about really. I look forward to giving this a read through.
    Well enjoy. Despite a lot of people's belief that politics is boring, it is actually perhaps the most interesting subject in the world. But I will warn you, once you start it is addictive.
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    (Original post by Adam Kelly)
    Well enjoy. Despite a lot of people's belief that politics is boring, it is actually perhaps the most interesting subject in the world. But I will warn you, once you start it is addictive.
    Boring? How can it possibly be seen as boring when it is all that is ever on the news these days?

    And if it is addictive then so be it. Better to be addicted than to be ignorant, right?
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    (Original post by F.I)
    Awesome, will definitely give it a read and hopefully a rating later on!
    (Original post by meopoka)
    Awesome, will definitely give it a read and hopefully a rating later on!
    :erm:
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    Re: A beginner's Guide To Politics
    (Original post by HarveyCanis)
    Any socialist party: Socialist Worker.
    You forget the New Statesman (albeit, it's a weekly magazine rather than a daily newspaper).
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    I would strongly recommend this to anyone about to study AS Governement and politics If only I had thi when i was studying AS ...
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    How long did this take? I agree with the fact that the UK education system doesn't teach UK politics to us. I'm now 18 and have no clue about any of the politics. I try and read the newpapers each day but I don't get anything. There's stuff right now on the Eurozone and I really don't understand any of it. Thanks for this. I'm saving this and will read
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    Re: A beginner's Guide To Politics
    (Original post by legaliseddealer)
    How long did this take? I agree with the fact that the UK education system doesn't teach UK politics to us. I'm now 18 and have no clue about any of the politics. I try and read the newpapers each day but I don't get anything. There's stuff right now on the Eurozone and I really don't understand any of it. Thanks for this. I'm saving this and will read
    I know what you mean. I had to do my own research to understand it all.
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