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What does 'Gegengerade' mean? (German)

TOSCS

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I was recently given a scarf from German football club FC St Pauli and it says on it:

FC ST. PAULI
GEGENGERADE
MILLERNTOR

I know Millerntor is their stadium...

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SpiritedAway

17

gegen means opposite or against, and gerade means even, just or straight.

so i'm taking a wild guess that it means straight opposite.

Reply 2

SpiritedAway

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EierVonSatan

gerade can also mean even

that's what i wrote ^^

Reply 3

Celifein

7

In the GEGENGERADE (we call it "back-straight" because it describes this terraces best)

http://www.uebersteiger.de/archiv/pauli.htm

Reply 4

soulofanewmachine

12

I hate the word gerade. I never know how to translate it :frown:

Reply 5

TimmyVermicelli

11

I've only ever known gerade as straight :confused:

Reply 6

TOSCS

OP

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Celifein

http://www.uebersteiger.de/archiv/pauli.htm

Ah gotcha, so it's basically like the Kop or the Stretford End, or the Jock Stein stand?

How do you pronounce it anyway?

Reply 7

Celifein

7

TOSCS

Ah gotcha, so it's basically like the Kop or the Stretford End, or the Jock Stein stand?

I have no idea what any of that means. I just googled "gegengerade".

TOSCS

How do you pronounce it anyway?

My German's a little rusty, but I think it's "gay-gen-ger-a-de".
Edit: Well, more like "ger-rad-e" or "ger-rad-a". Like I said, rusty. :smile:

Reply 8

SpiritedAway

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TimmyVermicelli

I've only ever known gerade as straight :confused:

don't be silly. it's German we're talking about :rolleyes:

they have to make it difficult :biggrin:

Reply 9

SpiritedAway

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Celifein

I have no idea what any of that means. I just googled "gegengerade".

My German's a little rusty, but I think it's "gay-gen-ger-a-de".
Edit: Well, more like "ger-rad-e" or "ger-rad-a". Like I said, rusty. :smile:

i would pronounce it as "gay-gen-ger-ar-der"

Reply 10

TimmyVermicelli

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SpiritedAway

don't be silly. it's German we're talking about :rolleyes:

they have to make it difficult :biggrin:

Leider, ja :frown:

Machmal hasse ich Deutsch.

Reply 11

Gooner

14

SpiritedAway

i would pronounce it as "gay-gen-ger-ar-der"

Odd, I'd have pronounced it "gay-gen-gay(said quickly)-rah-de" :s:

Just to make things a little more confusing for you... :p:

Reply 12

james99

1

I'm going to disagree with everyone so far on the first syllable! I don't think it's pronounced "gay" at all! It is difficult to write down how to pronounce it tho :/ Kind of like the English word "gear" but only the first two letters. If that makes any sense :p:

geah-gen-guh-rar-duh

Reply 13

Kathrin

7

I love this thread lol :yep:

you dont pronounce it "gay" at all.
It actually hasnt any difficult pronounciation
Just Ge-gen-gerade and pronounce the Ge like Geh, with a silent h to make it sound longer.

So, what is a Gegengerade.
I dont know, really, cause I am no football fan.
But I think I know what it can be.

The corners in a football stadium, where the people sit, are bents.
Those bents are known as "Kurve".
The fans of a certain club usually are located in such a Fussballkurve. From there they are shouting their songs etc (Stuff that football people do) across the stadium.
So where there are bends, there are also straight bits - die Gerade.
During a football game fans of one club sit along one Gerade, and the fans from the other/opposite team sit on the Gerade across.
So they can shout nasty stuff, and songs across when their team scores or the opposite team scores.
I think those Geraden are good cause you can face the fans directly of the opposite team.

So I think the Gegengerade is the opposite straight side. if that makes sense lol

and I also found on google:

"Eine Gegengerade, die immer wieder voller Inbrunst in die Lieder und Anfeuerungsrufe aus der Kurve einstimmt."

hope that helps :smile:

Reply 14

TOSCS

OP

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Kathrin

The fans of a certain club usually are located in such a Fussballkurve. From there they are shouting their songs etc (Stuff that football people do) across the stadium.

Ah yes, football 'Ultras' are what they're called. Not to be confused with hooligans, as they aren't.

So where there are bends, there are also straight bits - die Gerade.
During a football game fans of one club sit along one Gerade, and the fans from the other/opposite team sit on the Gerade across.
So they can shout nasty stuff, and songs across when their team scores or the opposite team scores.

Ah now, it's not always nasty stuff.

Thanks anyway for the pronounciation stuff. From what I already knwo about FC St Pauli (great support, strong anti-fascist, anti-racist, anti-sexist, left-wing socialist views) then it could either be referring to the area in which their Ultras sit, or maybe even a double meaning as in 'against the norm'.

Amburgo, Amburgo, Vaffanculo!

Reply 15

Kathrin

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TOSCS

Ah now, it's not always nasty stuff.

well, its not like the fans congratulate each other, is it?
I have been to one Bayern Munich Game before (Bayern vs. Mönchen Glattbach) and I was shocked, what horrible stuff they were singing.

I can't remember exactly, but it must have been something along those lines....http://www.antibayern.de/sonstiges/lieder.htm

Reply 16

TOSCS

OP

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Kathrin

well, its not like the fans congratulate each other, is it?
I have been to one Bayern Munich Game before (Bayern vs. Mönchen Glattbach) and I was shocked, what horrible stuff they were singing.

I can remember exactly, but it must have been something along those lines....http://www.antibayern.de/sonstiges/lieder.htm