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Plan B: Run away and join the foreign legion/the circus.

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Originally Posted by tokyorose888
i wonder for those that left uni, how do you actually feel? Im still in college so im still a bit behind but when i think of it, it really saddens me that life just wont be the same anymore.

To be honest, I have felt scared! lol. I was looking forward to it totally, but life has changed so much - things change so fast - you think you have plans and then they can totally change.

A lot of my friends like I said, kind of drop off, but that's the same always as like when you leave school etc... there are always new friends to be made I guess.

It's just like a total life change, and I have found it to be a challenge, but challenges are good!
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Originally Posted by prospectivEEconomist
oh dear...were you one of those people who studied their subject due to the sheer enjoyment, and never worried one bit of how marketable it was in the job market?


This is the most ridiculous thing I've heard all evening.

Of COURSE you have to enjoy what you're studying, if you don't, how on EARTH are you going to give your degree, and furthermore your job, your all?

I'm off to study English Language and Linguistic in Sept and I've had my mum behind me since the start of sixth form, telling me I should've taken Maths at uni as there is a shortage of mathematicians.

OKay, so I take maths because of the mouthwatering salary, but am just mediocre in my performance and clinically depressed at the thought of getting out of bed everyday to go to work?

**** THAT

Give me my English Degree, dreams of writing for the Times/Independent and possible unemployment following uni ANY day
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Graduated in July. Living with parents, which is ... slowly ... very slowly ... but steadily ... driving me mad. Came back just as the 'rents were starting a mass redecoration / DIY drive, so still got sacks of clothes, bits of furniture, and boxes of stuff lurking in garages / lofts. Which is kinda depressing.

Landed absolute dream job (part time) for eight weeks starting mid-September. But eight weeks is all it is. Unfortunately. Going to have to find something slightly more permanent come January.

Seem to be okay financially. Parental support during university, living frugally, inherited wealth and prior savings are tiding me over nicely. Spending a lot of time / money on trains, getting back down to Brighton to see people. A fair few university friends seem to have melted into the background, disappearing to far-flung locations like China, or moving to London permanently, so to speak. Meanwhile, been catching up with a lot of school and sixth form friends, who are either back home for the summer or (like me) trying to figure out what to do next. Lots of sitting in pubs. Keeps me out of the house, though, which is good for the ol' sanity.

Currently prepping applications for a couple of Masters degrees. Definitely want to continue with education, but didn't have enough of an idea about what I wanted to focus on to continue straight through from undergrad. Probably needed a year out for some "real-world" stuff too.

So, yeah, it's definitely a weird mental / life space to be in. And there isn't much to ground or anchor you. I can see how it would be easy to get depressed or stuck in a rut, but I'm - if not enjoying - then coping with it. A suspension of "real life", rather than outright torment or purgatory. And I've been reading a lot of books.
 
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Originally Posted by NDGAARONDI
Isn't this why we have personal development file or something? Not all of us wish to study vocational courses like golf management at Manchester or accounting at LSE. My degree has a nice balance of academia and vocational compatibility with very good options of further, advanced study.

I never advocated that everyone should study a hardcore science or engineering degree, but it is nice to find a balance IF possible. For example if you want to study sports science, and are good at maths but still do not want to study a straight maths degree, why not study a joint honors? that way your degree is *respected* and you are sort of studying something you enjoy
 
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Originally Posted by prospectivEEconomist
I never advocated that everyone should study a hardcore science or engineering degree, but it is nice to find a balance IF possible. For example if you want to study sports science, and are good at maths but still do not want to study a straight maths degree, why not study a joint honors? that way your degree is *respected* and you are sort of studying something you enjoy

What if you don't like maths though? Not everyone's desperate to be 'respected' by other people. As long as people are sensible about what they can do, and do their research, then what's the problem?
If people are too stupid to do their own research, that's their fault.
 
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What if you don't like maths though? Not everyone's desperate to be 'respected' by other people. As long as people are sensible about what they can do, and do their research, then what's the problem?
If people are too stupid to do their own research, that's their fault.

Find something else. If you still want to study something that might not offer good career prospects, then that is the decision you will have to take.
 
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Originally Posted by prospectivEEconomist
Find something else. If you still want to study something that might not offer good career prospects, then that is the decision you will have to take.

I'm confused about what your opinion is, can you just confirm it for me?
You believe that people should study whatever they want, but they have to deal with the consequences of their choices?
So you think people should take joint degrees if they're going to complain about their job prospects?
 
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erm no. If you studying a degree that offers **** career prospects, but are also good at lets say economics (EXAMPLE, YOU DONT HAVE TO STUDY ECONOMICS), then take a joint hons! If you suck at all of the subjects that do offer good career prospects, then study whatever you want.
 
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Originally Posted by prospectivEEconomist
erm no. If you studying a degree that offers **** career prospects, but are also good at lets say economics (EXAMPLE, YOU DONT HAVE TO STUDY ECONOMICS), then take a joint hons! If you suck at all of the subjects that do offer good career prospects, then study whatever you want.

But what's the point in studying something you're good at if you don't enjoy it?
Unless you're going to spend the whole of your life complaining about the lack of job prospects, what does it matter?
 
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But what's the point in studying something you're good at if you don't enjoy it?
Unless you're going to spend the whole of your life complaining about the lack of job prospects, what does it matter?

He's stuck in the mentality that people go to university purely in an attempt to get a better job, which is completely wrong.

I decided to go to university for so, so many reasons:

I get to be away from my parents and do my own thing
I get to have responsibilities and make my own decisions
I can live in a new city
I can meet an incredible amount of new people
I can learn new things every day
The life experience I get cannot be matched anywhere else


University isn't just about increasing your career prospects, it's about growingn as a person. Uni is essentially "diet real-life", it's where you get to **** up and make mistakes and try new things etc etc to prepare yourself for real life. It's not about making your CV as impressive as possible.
 
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Originally Posted by prospectivEEconomist
I never advocated that everyone should study a hardcore science or engineering degree, but it is nice to find a balance IF possible. For example if you want to study sports science, and are good at maths but still do not want to study a straight maths degree, why not study a joint honors? that way your degree is *respected* and you are sort of studying something you enjoy

Well it's up the individual. With some of the stigma that some of these degrees get on TSR and with a fetish of the elite universities, I wanted to use golf management in the same sentence with LSE.
 
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But what's the point in studying something you're good at if you don't enjoy it?
Unless you're going to spend the whole of your life complaining about the lack of job prospects, what does it matter?

nevermind, this isn't going anywhere. good luck with whatever you are studying!
 
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Originally Posted by Lyncho
He's stuck in the mentality that people go to university purely in an attempt to get a better job, which is completely wrong.

I decided to go to university for so, so many reasons:

I get to be away from my parents and do my own thing
I get to have responsibilities and make my own decisions
I can live in a new city
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I can learn new things every day
The life experience I get cannot be matched anywhere else


University isn't just about increasing your career prospects, it's about growingn as a person. Uni is essentially "diet real-life", it's where you get to **** up and make mistakes and try new things etc etc to prepare yourself for real life. It's not about making your CV as impressive as possible.

Unfortunately, with the increased costs involved in university education, the main reason for going to university will be increasing the job prospects reason, because a degree in classics or something similar will no longer be seen as worth the money. Though I fear this is already the case.
 
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Originally Posted by prospectivEEconomist
nevermind, this isn't going anywhere. good luck with whatever you are studying!

Great answer. Thanks for taking the time to explain your views, instead of giving up as soon as you're asked to actually think about what you're trying to argue.
 
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Great answer. Thanks for taking the time to explain your views, instead of giving up as soon as you're asked to actually think about what you're trying to argue.

LOL. Well lets see. A lot of people are good at different subjects (I was personally also good at bio, chem and maths). If I decided I wanted to study something like politics then I could have studied a joint hons like politics and maths. If you are good at something (not naturally, but through hard work) then you obviously enjoy the subject enough to get a good grade in it, or you would just not bother with it and get a bad grade. geddit?
 
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Originally Posted by NDGAARONDI
Unfortunately, with the increased costs involved in university education, the main reason for going to university will be increasing the job prospects reason, because a degree in classics or something similar will no longer be seen as worth the money. Though I fear this is already the case.

It is the main reason for most people, yes, but not all; and why is it not up to the individual?
As long as they're not just going to university as a way to avoid work and spend three years drunk, does it matter?
Some people don't go to get the most highly-paying job possible.
 
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LOL. Well lets see. A lot of people are good at different subjects (I was personally also good at bio, chem and maths). If I decided I wanted to study something like politics then I could have studied a joint hons like politics and maths. If you are good at something (not naturally, but through hard work) then you obviously enjoy the subject enough to get a good grade in it, or you would just not bother with it and get a bad grade. geddit?

What about if you're good at something naturally, but enjoy something completely different?
 
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lol there is a fine line between enjoying something that won't get you anywhere in life, and enjoying something that is worthwhile studying.
 
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lol there is a fine line between enjoying something that won't get you anywhere in life, and enjoying something that is worthwhile studying.

Why? What do you consider something that's 'worthwhile studying'? Just something that'll get you the highest paying job possible?
 
 
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