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Old 03-10-2008: 3rd October 2008 19:14 #1 
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My five course choices look like this:

History and Politics – University of Oxford
Government and History – London School of Economics
History and Politics – University of Edinburgh
International Relations and History – University of St. Andrews
European Social and Political Studies – University College London

However, as my PS is heavily focusing on History and Politics (and not IR), I'm afraid that St. Andrews will simply reject me on that basis. Thus, I am looking into other possibilities. The strong arguments in favour of St. Andrews are no tuition fees, cheap accommodation and a good reputation.

The institutions I've looked into instead, now, are:

Aberystwyth (loads of interesting courses)
Durham - Politics (European Studies w/year abroad)
Warwick - History and Politics
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Is it too risky to switch St. Andrews with Durham or Warwick? I'm also applying to Trinity College, Dublin, which gives me another opportunity.

Furthermore, how does St. Andrews compare to especially Durham but also Warwick in terms of reputation, accommodation costs etc.?

The major drawback of leaving St. A. is that I'll have to pay around £10,000 additionally to go to e.g. Warwick.

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Old 04-10-2008: 4th October 2008 09:02 #2 
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The history/politics focused personal statement may be a problem for St Andrews, yes. How high up is St Andrews in your university choices/priorities.

The difference between St Andrews, Warwick and Durham in terms of general "rep" is equal. In International Relations/politics St Andrews would have the edge. Certainly in IR anyway. Durham and Warwick are equal imo.

Of course rep is based largely on general perceptions. It's quite a hard thing to measure and slightly subjective. Still, I don't think too many would disagree with me there.

Although I see you have chosen Durham's European Studies as an option. Why not History and politics? I think the joint honours programme has now been discontinued. However, you can still create yourself a far more flexible joint honours programme through the combined honours programme. I only say this as it seems you are drawn to history and politics elsewhere, Durham's history department is excellent (arguably the strongest in the country, certainly outside of Oxbridge) and your PS is focused on politics and history.

As I've said a few times, I don't mean to give the impression Durham's politics department/school of government and international affirs is a bad department at all. It's certainly not. It has great strengths in political thought and middle eastern politics in particular. I enjoyed my time there and would still recommend it. Even so, I would be lying if I told you its politics department was of the same standard as its many of its arts and science courses (for which it's so well regarded). History, English, Classics, Physics, Chemistry and law for example. The only minor concern I have with politics at Durham is the school's slight lack of organisation. It doesn't cause any major problems though.

But if European Studies appeals to you, then, fair enough I just wasn't sure if you were aware of the combined honours.

Finally, Durham and St Andrews are fairly equal in terms of general cost. I'm not 100% sure about St Andrews' accomodation but I've heard it's quite expensive. Durham's is fairly expensive also. For first years it's not too bad, for returned it's ridiculous. However, you don't need to live in as a returner. You can chose to live in private accomodation (the cost of which varies significantly but if you're quick of the mark you can get a good deal). Other than accomodation then other costs are reasonable.

Sorry I can't say much about Warwick. I'd rather leave that to Warwick students.
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Personally, I'd choose somewhere like Aber. As it stands, your choices are all relatively risky/demanding in offer terms, and having one back-up of the five is never a bad idea.

However, with regards to your specific situation, and IR/History JH will be fine with a history/politics statement. I'm more concerned by the UCL ESPS course, which is more different to a History and Politics degree than IR/Hist is. (Edit - just looked at your PS - you should be fine for ESPS, actually).
 

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Obviously, I'm biased as a Sheffield politics student.

But have you considered History and Politics at Sheffield? It has excellent rep for both history and politics, but especially politics. It would also be a semi safe choice, with the typical offer AAB.
 
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