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Old 29-10-2008: 29th October 2008 18:18 #1 
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Just want some advice from people who've been through the application process already for Architecture

I'm in my 2nd year A levels, i got
an A in Art & Design - 3D Design
an A in Art & Design - Graphics Design
a D in Physics
and an E in Maths

dropped Physics, but retaking the AS papers because i know i can get a better result, and retaking all the Maths papers, i just didnt revise for them so its all my fault really.

But now im a bit worried about gettin offers from Unis when they see them results. Ive got a pretty good personal statement which shows how passionate i am about becoming an architect but i went to the Manchester open day the other week and he said he doesnt look at the personal statement and he only offers people places if theyve got 3 A's, does he mean for people who get 3 A's in August 09 or from their predicted grades (ie the AS's)?

Where have people been offered places and what with?? just want somekind of idea on how it all works because i know Uni's have such different views on how they take on applicants in architecture especially.

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Old 30-10-2008: 30th October 2008 12:52 #2 
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Originally Posted by ShaunMntr
he said he doesnt look at the personal statement and he only offers people places if theyve got 3 A's, does he mean for people who get 3 A's in August 09 or from their predicted grades (ie the AS's)?

Are you sure he wasn't just being sarcastic?
 
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Are you sure he wasn't just being sarcastic?
I was at the open day and he didn't sound sarcastic to me.
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That is a mighty odd thing to say then "we don't really look at your personal statement, get 3 As and you'll get an offer"

What about that drawing assignment they have, is that insignificant as well?

I think they're just in a desperate attempt to pull themselves a bit higher up the ladder this year.
 
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I find that quote rather pathetic and if it's true I'd look into making some sort of a complaint.

Any feelings I had towards reading Architecture at Manchester have now all been dimminished.
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That is a mighty odd thing to say then "we don't really look at your personal statement, get 3 As and you'll get an offer"

What about that drawing assignment they have, is that insignificant as well?

yer he said he wanted to see that we can draw trees and apples in front of our eyes, not drawing s of buildings and stuff. but yer he definitely wasnt being sarcastic about the personal statement and the grades. he did say that he will consider AAB and ABB but when someone said what about AAC (the same as AAB in ucas points) he said "well thats a difficult one, if i have a penny on me, il flip it!" at that point my stomach just dropped.

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yer he said he wanted to see that we can draw trees and apples in front of our eyes, not drawing s of buildings and stuff. but yer he definitely wasnt being sarcastic about the personal statement and the grades. he did say that he will consider AAB and ABB but when someone said what about AAC (the same as AAB in ucas points) he said "well thats a difficult one, if i have a penny on me, il flip it!" at that point my stomach just dropped.

that's really not very promising is it?
are you thinking about taking a gap year? cos if you are, i'd recommend appling later on if you're scared about your results not enabling you to get into AAA uni's. Apply once you've got your grades and then you don't have to go through the waiting game like everyone else. If i could've done that, i would. Just so happens that i was the year that they changed the fees, so if i wanted to pay £1250 instead of £3000 i had to defer and apply before my gap year on provisional grades. grrr was quite annoying!
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Originally Posted by ShaunMntr
yer he said he wanted to see that we can draw trees and apples in front of our eyes, not drawing s of buildings and stuff. but yer he definitely wasnt being sarcastic about the personal statement and the grades. he did say that he will consider AAB and ABB but when someone said what about AAC (the same as AAB in ucas points) he said "well thats a difficult one, if i have a penny on me, il flip it!" at that point my stomach just dropped.



That sounds like sarcasm to me . He's not genuinely going to flip a coin to decide, is he now? He's already said he'll consider AAB/ABB, so that means he wasn't entirely serious about the whole "get 3 A's and you get an offer" thing.
 
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As far as i know at Manchester they ask you to send in some drawings and sketches so i'm sure that will go along with grades, and probably your P/S in deciding to offer you a place or not.
 
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Who said this?

I got in on AAB, but I didn't have an art subject so I'm sure they must've looked at my personal statement.
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Originally Posted by 9mm
That is a mighty odd thing to say then "we don't really look at your personal statement, get 3 As and you'll get an offer"

What about that drawing assignment they have, is that insignificant as well?

I think they're just in a desperate attempt to pull themselves a bit higher up the ladder this year.

Those WERE the exact words of the head of architecture at bath funnily enough!
 
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so where do people think is best to go, in my mind its oxford brookes atm, like its in a nice place, not in the centre of london so wont cost as much to live, the course has regular Riba silver medalists in it most years....good sport aswell what do people think??
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cambridge or ucl
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sheffield and nottingham..cambridge is not that good for architecture plus it only has a BA no diploma afterwards...i love edinburgh as well...i dunno...UCL as well even if i dont wanna stay in london..wouldnt mind the offer...
 
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cambridge does teach a part 2 course starting this year, and i fully intend on applying there after my BA, simply because thats where i want to write my phd so can use their part 2 course to get used to the system.

Also, on the "cambridge isn't good for architecture" topic... this has been mentioned loads of times before over the last few years, and the fact is it is good for architecture, because cambridge is good at everything (by virtue). Where for most of its courses its in a whole different league than other universities (for maths, english, philosphy etc). This doesn't apply to Architecture, where its very much in the same league as the other architecture schools(ucl, sheffield, AA, cardiff etc) The fact that its not better than every other place (as usual) makes people assume its no good. Wrong logic.

Anyway, i'm pretty bored which is the main reason for this post. I don't really have anything of interest to add to the topic
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oh that's great, didn't know they were starting the part 2, great stuff.
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yeah its not a diploma though, its a MPhil in environmental design.
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so can you qualify as a proffesional Architect off it?
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yeah, there's two routes A and B, one's a research masters and the other integrates 3 terms in practice with 3 terms in school and you get your RIBA part 2 from it. Route A can be used as a one year intro for writing at PhD so i might have a stab at applying for that if i end up not wanting to be an architect, but its nice to have the option... I wouldn't mind staying at Sheffield for my part 2 as the uni is brilliant, its just i don't think i want to live in sheffield for 5 years.. i like changing scenery, and there's no scenery better than Cambridge lol, plus i find environmental design quite interesting (though i havn't learnt a lot about it yet)

I think I should stop filling this thread with unrelated crap now.... sorry OP.
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hehe, yeah Cambridge is amazing, I hope to go there for part 1
 
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