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  1. v2006's Avatar
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    Re: University & Course Comparisons for IB&C
    Considering the average wage of biochem grads from imperial is about 20 k , I doubt many go into banking.
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    And the average wage of computing graduates from Imperial is what?
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    Guys how would a BSc Actuarial science from Cass be for a FO job at a leading IB.... I know the university isnt top of the world but this course is highly reputed and also very mathematical.... which i guess i looked favourably upon in IBs!

    I need some honest opinions please....
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    And the average wage of computing graduates from Imperial is what?
    1 million dollars
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    (Original post by Uzi Rox)
    Guys how would a BSc Actuarial science from Cass be for a FO job at a leading IB.... I know the university isnt top of the world but this course is highly reputed and also very mathematical.... which i guess i looked favourably upon in IBs!

    I need some honest opinions please....
    Quite possible.
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    Hey guys,

    If one does an MPhil in Economics from Oxbridge does that only limit them to a career in academia or do some go into IB and MC?

    Also how well are MPhil Econ grads recieved? Are they heavily targeted? Just curious really.
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    (Original post by Uzi Rox)
    Guys how would a BSc Actuarial science from Cass be for a FO job at a leading IB.... I know the university isnt top of the world but this course is highly reputed and also very mathematical.... which i guess i looked favourably upon in IBs!

    I need some honest opinions please....
    Is the course actually at Cass or is it a City course? Cass, at least for postgrad, tends to be pretty good, so reasonable. Though still not good, as the vast majority of places go to Oxbridge, LSE, UCL and Warwick. It's possible, but not good.
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    Hey guys,

    If one does an MPhil in Economics from Oxbridge does that only limit them to a career in academia or do some go into IB and MC?

    Also how well are MPhil Econ grads recieved? Are they heavily targeted? Just curious really.
    For banking applications, depends on your undergrad.

    As for what most people go into, tends to be quite a few into further academia, but around half go into business, often economic consultancies, jobs as professional economists (government economic service and a multitude of smaller employers), etc. To have a job as an economist almost anywhere but the GES requires a masters.

    A few go into IB or MC, but it's not that often. When spend two years and a lot of money does a very hard course to go and do a job that doesn't use it? There are easier, cheaper and shorter masters courses to do if you're set on IB or MC and haven't gone to a target uni.

    It's also very difficult to get onto. I know a couple of people who ended up with a first at Oxford and were rejected for it. You need at least a first prediction, and generally a first in 1st/2nd year exams to stand a decent chance.
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    Drogue, sorry to ask you a silly and boring question, but would a Nottingham economics degree get you a decent financial job?
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    Depends what you mean by a decent financial job. It wouldn't stop you doing any financial job, but front office IB would be tough. Possible, but harder than if it were from one of the typical 5 (plus possibly Imperial if they wanted to). For pretty much anything else (big 4, financial consultancy, doing finance in a business, etc.) it'd be perfectly fine. In fact, Nottingham have the most grads on the FSA's grad programme, something silly like 11 out of the 41 new grads this year. Just for info, I think the next highest are LSE, Oxford, Cambridge, Warwick and Imperial who all have ~3-5 each.
    Last edited by Drogue; 09-12-2007 at 16:08.
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    Oh ok, so the degree must be half decent then .
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    (Original post by Drogue)
    Is the course actually at Cass or is it a City course? Cass, at least for postgrad, tends to be pretty good, so reasonable. Though still not good, as the vast majority of places go to Oxbridge, LSE, UCL and Warwick. It's possible, but not good.
    Its a Cass programme, but they get the City name on the cert.
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    hi. can i ask for advice? i got to choose fifth uni. I've already chosen Warwick/Surrey/Nott/Loughborough and I have no idea. I want it to be my last insurance but not crap. Any ideas appreciated.
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    Hi all
    nhfgngn
    Last edited by mercedesbenzfan; 31-05-2009 at 22:52.
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    I really would like to pursue a career in IB...and it must be said my first love is with languages..in particular Spanish...so I would like to ask how would firms look at graduates who had, say, 7 months work experience in Deloitte during a gap year and a Modern Languages graduate from Oxford in Spanish and Italian? Or would they rather have a graduate from Warwick with Economics? My heart lies with Modern Languages...but what I really would like to tell me is if that would hurt my chances from making it to the top of the Finance world...this is assuming i go to a top uni (Oxbridge) to do my modern languages degree!
    Both very good - you will get interviews with either but i would shoot for oxford if i had to.
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    If you go to Oxbridge, any degree is ok. I know people who got onto into competitive places with degrees in Classics. However I've never met a banker who did a non-economics/science subject and got into FO IB. I'm sure they exist, but they seem to be much rarer. Probably at least partly because, at least in terms of A level grades and apps-per-place, economics is very tough to get into, and economics students tend to want to go into IB in far larger numbers.

    If you go to Oxbridge to do modern languages, you'd be fine. If you went to Warwick (or Oxbridge/LSE/etc.) to do economics, you'd be fine. If you went to a non-Oxbridge uni and did modern languages, you may be fine, but it'd likely be harder.
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    hk
    Last edited by mercedesbenzfan; 31-05-2009 at 22:46.
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    how r they going to know which UMS marks u got?all you state is grades. they dont care about public vs state school. any degree from oxbridge as long as it is not a doss subject(i think u can check them out on varsity) will be respected.
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    (Original post by wazzup)
    how r they going to know which UMS marks u got?all you state is grades. they dont care about public vs state school. any degree from oxbridge as long as it is not a doss subject(i think u can check them out on varsity) will be respected.
    From this year I think people have to put in their individual marks.
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    (Original post by mercedesbenzfan)
    Do you feel that Modern Langauges at Oxford would be a respected degree amongst LSE grad. bankers and do banks distinguish between those who a) went to private school or b) got low A grades as supposed to super high ones
    I have no idea what type of school the other grads I work with went to, nor how well they did in their A levels (not grades, and certainly not UMS marks). And why would you care what LSE grad bankers respect? As long as it's good enough to get you an interview, it doesn't matter what you studied.

    Of the LSE people I know, half are convinced it's the best place in the world and have a bit of a chip on their shoulder with Oxbridge peeps, and the rest wouldn't care what university you went to if you were working with them.

    Where you go to university matters for getting a job and how you spend those 3/4 years. It doesn't matter for anything else. What grades you get matter for getting into a good uni and getting a job, but nothing else. People you work with won't care.
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