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Zygroth
Er...How do you get 40cm3 of Cr(III)? Could you scan in the whole question? :p: I'm a bit confused atm lol :frown:


Its above this post.
sorry its bit long.
Really, really appriciate your help.
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Sunnydazzleeyes
Its above this post.
sorry its bit long.
Really, really appriciate your help.


Oh. You only used 40/250 of the volume of solution that you put the Cr(III) ions in, so the answer is only 40/250 of the total mass of the Cr ions in that 2.2g :p: Should get 0.272g, which is 12.3% of 2.2g.
Zygroth
Oh. You only used 40/250 of the volume of solution that you put the Cr(III) ions in, so the answer is only 40/250 of the total mass of the Cr ions in that 2.2g :p: Should get 0.272g, which is 12.3% of 2.2g.


how about the first question? And how did you get 12.3%. please help me.:wink:
Reply 23
Those were the answers to the 2 questions :p:
You used the right method for Q1:

25.051000×0.1001=2.508×103 moles of Fe\frac{25.05}{1000} \times 0.1001 = 2.508 \times 10^{-3}\ \mathrm{moles\ of\ Fe}

=8.36×104 moles of Cr= 8.36 \times 10^{-4}\ \mathrm{moles\ of\ Cr}

=4.35×102g in 40cm3= 4.35 \times 10^{-2}\mathrm{g}\ \mathrm{in}\ 40\mathrm{cm^3}

Because the salt's in 250cm3 of solution, you only have 40/250 of the salt, so divide by that to get the total mass of the Cr = 0.272g, which is 12.3% of 2.2g.
Zygroth
Those were the answers to the 2 questions :p:
You used the right method for Q1:

25.051000×0.1001=2.508×103 moles of Fe\frac{25.05}{1000} \times 0.1001 = 2.508 \times 10^{-3}\ \mathrm{moles\ of\ Fe}

=8.36×104 moles of Cr= 8.36 \times 10^{-4}\ \mathrm{moles\ of\ Cr}

=4.35×102g in 40cm3= 4.35 \times 10^{-2}\mathrm{g}\ \mathrm{in}\ 40\mathrm{cm^3}

Because the salt's in 250cm3 of solution, you only have 40/250 of the salt, so divide by that to get the total mass of the Cr = 0.272g, which is 12.3% of 2.2g.


Thank you :p:
You deserve a +VE rep. :yep:
Zygroth
Those were the answers to the 2 questions :p:
You used the right method for Q1:

25.051000×0.1001=2.508×103 moles of Fe\frac{25.05}{1000} \times 0.1001 = 2.508 \times 10^{-3}\ \mathrm{moles\ of\ Fe}

=8.36×104 moles of Cr= 8.36 \times 10^{-4}\ \mathrm{moles\ of\ Cr}

=4.35×102g in 40cm3= 4.35 \times 10^{-2}\mathrm{g}\ \mathrm{in}\ 40\mathrm{cm^3}

Because the salt's in 250cm3 of solution, you only have 40/250 of the salt, so divide by that to get the total mass of the Cr = 0.272g, which is 12.3% of 2.2g.


I am having some trouble getting to your answer. Could go through it step by step? Sorry to bother you again :wink:
Cr2O72- + 6Fe2+ + 14H+ (arrow) 2Cr3+ + 6Fe3+ + 7H2O

25.05cm-3 of Fe2+ was used to titrate 40cm3 of Cr (III). Concentration of Fe2+ was 0.1001mol dm-1. Determine the mass of Cr (III).

(25.05/1000) x 0.1001 =2.503x10-3mol of Fe2+

Reaction is 3:1

Therefore

2.503x10cm-3/3= 8.3433x10-4mol of Cr (III)

Relative atomic mass of Cr = 51.996 g/mol
M= n x Mr
51.996 x 8.34 x 10-4=0.0433g of Cr (III) used
g of Cr (III) in 40cm-3= 0.0433 x 40/250 = 6.93 x 10-3g
Reply 26
Redo your first calculation of 25.05/1000 x 0.1001 :p: And the very last line should be x 250/40 rather than the other way round; you use 40cm3 out of 250, so you need to divide by 40 to get what's in 1 cm3 then multiply by 250.

What's this for btw? A level? Seems like you've been given an awful lot of time to do it :p:
Zygroth
Redo your first calculation of 25.05/1000 x 0.1001 :p: And the very last line should be x 250/40 rather than the other way round; you use 40cm3 out of 250, so you need to divide by 40 to get what's in 1 cm3 then multiply by 250.

What's this for btw? A level? Seems like you've been given an awful lot of time to do it :p:

25.05cm-3 of Fe2+ was used to titrate 40cm3 of Cr (III). Concentration of Fe2+ was 0.1001mol dm-1. Determine the mass of Cr (III).

(25.05/1000) x 0.1001 =2.503x10-3mol of Fe2+

Reaction is 3:1

Therefore

2.503x10cm-3/3= 8.3433x10-4mol of Cr (III)

Relative atomic mass of Cr = 51.996 g/mol
M= n x Mr

51.996 x 8.34 x 10-4=0.0433g of Cr (III) used
g of Cr (III) in 40cm-3= 0.0433 / (40/250) = 0.271g of Cr in 40cm-3


Is that correct? :o:
it is A level!
Reply 28
Yeah, except you still have the very first line wrong :p: At least, my calculator says 25.05/1000 x 0.1001 = 2.508 x 10-3. Using 52 as the atomic mass of chromium is fine btw :smile:
Zygroth
Yeah, except you still have the very first line wrong :p: At least, my calculator says 25.05/1000 x 0.1001 = 2.508 x 10-3. Using 52 as the atomic mass of chromium is fine btw :smile:


thank you :wink:
Tho my teacher like all numbers to be 'accurate'
Reply 30
Haha, you wont be given anything close to that in an exam :p: I think what they mean is use the calculator value rather than a rounded value when you're doing calculations with those numbers.
Zygroth
Haha, you wont be given anything close to that in an exam :p: I think what they mean is use the calculator value rather than a rounded value when you're doing calculations with those numbers.


Can I ask a little question? How did you get 250cm3 in the 40/250 calculation.

250cm3 was the volume of my conical flask not the solution :s-smilie:

I thought it was meant to be 40/1000cm3
Reply 32
then transfer the solution to 250cm3 volumetric flask and made it up to the mark with sulphuric acid.


:p:
Zygroth
:p:

Oh cool i can put my heart at rest now. Thank you a billion.
Reply 34
Sunnydazzleeyes
Oh cool i can put my heart at rest now. Thank you a billion.


Haha, no problem. Good practise for my own exams :p:

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