Join TSR
 
About Us | FAQs | Sign in
 
Advanced
Search

Join The Student Room Today

Be part of the UK's largest and fastest growing student community.

It's free to join and a lot of fun - Get inspired, express your ideas, interact and share

RSS  Maths revision, coursework or discussion you will find help in here.
Reply
 
Announcements   Posted By
 
Old 08-11-2008: 8th November 2008 11:39 #1 
jamesh_91 jamesh_91 is offline Male
Exalted Member
Thread Starter
jamesh_91 will become famous soon enoughjamesh_91 will become famous soon enough
United Kingdom
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 336
Default Additional Further Maths
 
Right I want to maths at Oxbridge because i have a huge passion for it and really enjoy it and currently doing maths, f.maths, physics, chemistry and economics but in A2 i want to drop economics and do additional further maths

would doing additional further maths icnrease my chances of getting accepted to additional further maths at oxbridge?

also another question as M6 no longer exists for edexcel (maybe other exam baords to?) then what modules would i have to take to get an A2 level in this...

currently i am taking the following modules:

Maths AS - C1,C2,S1 Maths A2 - C3,C4,M1
F.Maths AS - FP1,D1,D2 F.Maths A2 - FP2, M2, M3

so what would i do for additional further maths?

AS - FP3, S2, S3 A2 - M4, M5 and S4?

any replies would be helpful
thanks
 
Register to remove banners from posts.
Old 08-11-2008: 8th November 2008 11:42 #2 
cheemaj187 cheemaj187 is offline Male
Exalted Member
cheemaj187 will become famous soon enough
United Kingdom
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 376
Default Re: Additional Further Maths
 
From personal experience, I have never known anyone with Additional Further Maths to be rejected from Oxbridge, and most go to study at Trinity, Cambridge. If you can get A's in triple maths then it shows you are the dog's ********, and a real passion and commitment for the subject. If you feel like its too much, then do some STEP and an AEA in maths like me
 
Old 08-11-2008: 8th November 2008 12:00 #3 
Kolya's Avatar
Kolya Kolya is offline
TSR Legend
TSR Moderation Team: Moderator
Kolya has disabled reputation
Join Date: Jan 2006
My Societies
Default Re: Additional Further Maths
 
To be honest, there is probably work you could do that is more enjoyable and beneficial, rather than doing AFM. I don't think it is particularly useful.
 
Old 08-11-2008: 8th November 2008 12:02 #4 
SimonM's Avatar
SimonM SimonM is offline Male
TSR Demigod
SimonM has a ridiculously high reputationSimonM has a ridiculously high reputationSimonM has a ridiculously high reputationSimonM has a ridiculously high reputationSimonM has a ridiculously high reputationSimonM has a ridiculously high reputationSimonM has a ridiculously high reputationSimonM has a ridiculously high reputationSimonM has a ridiculously high reputationSimonM has a ridiculously high reputationSimonM has a ridiculously high reputationSimonM has a ridiculously high reputationSimonM has a ridiculously high reputation
Guernsey
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Guernsey
Posts: 6,161
My Societies
Send a message via AIM to SimonM Send a message via MSN to SimonM Send a message via Skype™ to SimonM
Default Re: Additional Further Maths
 
Originally Posted by cheemaj187
From personal experience, I have never known anyone with Additional Further Maths to be rejected from Oxbridge, and most go to study at Trinity, Cambridge. If you can get A's in triple maths then it shows you are the dog's ********, and a real passion and commitment for the subject. If you feel like its too much, then do some STEP and an AEA in maths like me

Erm, last year Trinity actually stipulated in someone's offer that they would not accept an A in AFM
Old 08-11-2008: 8th November 2008 12:05 #5 
BJack's Avatar
BJack BJack is online now Male
Vengeful, Imperial Overlord of The Student Room
BJack has a reputation beyond reputeBJack has a reputation beyond reputeBJack has a reputation beyond reputeBJack has a reputation beyond reputeBJack has a reputation beyond reputeBJack has a reputation beyond reputeBJack has a reputation beyond reputeBJack has a reputation beyond reputeBJack has a reputation beyond reputeBJack has a reputation beyond reputeBJack has a reputation beyond repute
Seychelles
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 4,927
Default Re: Additional Further Maths
 
Originally Posted by cheemaj187
From personal experience, I have never known anyone with Additional Further Maths to be rejected from Oxbridge, and most go to study at Trinity, Cambridge.

How many people make up your personal experience?
 
Old 08-11-2008: 8th November 2008 12:43 #6 
jamesh_91 jamesh_91 is offline Male
Exalted Member
Thread Starter
jamesh_91 will become famous soon enoughjamesh_91 will become famous soon enough
United Kingdom
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 336
Default Re: Additional Further Maths
 
so your advising me this isn't worthwhile...thats a shame as i love maths and could class it as a hobby
 
Old 08-11-2008: 8th November 2008 12:45 #7 
SimonM's Avatar
SimonM SimonM is offline Male
TSR Demigod
SimonM has a ridiculously high reputationSimonM has a ridiculously high reputationSimonM has a ridiculously high reputationSimonM has a ridiculously high reputationSimonM has a ridiculously high reputationSimonM has a ridiculously high reputationSimonM has a ridiculously high reputationSimonM has a ridiculously high reputationSimonM has a ridiculously high reputationSimonM has a ridiculously high reputationSimonM has a ridiculously high reputationSimonM has a ridiculously high reputationSimonM has a ridiculously high reputation
Guernsey
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Guernsey
Posts: 6,161
My Societies
Send a message via AIM to SimonM Send a message via MSN to SimonM Send a message via Skype™ to SimonM
Default Re: Additional Further Maths
 
Originally Posted by jamesh_91
so your advising me this isn't worthwhile...thats a shame as i love maths and could class it as a hobby

Sorry. I love maths a huge amount but it certainly doesn't spur me to study more modules. If anything it makes me want to explore a variety of different branches of the subject which aren't taught in schools
Old 08-11-2008: 8th November 2008 12:47 #8 
necessarily benevolent's Avatar
necessarily benevolent necessarily benevolent is offline Male
TSR Idol
necessarily benevolent is a splendid one to beholdnecessarily benevolent is a splendid one to beholdnecessarily benevolent is a splendid one to beholdnecessarily benevolent is a splendid one to beholdnecessarily benevolent is a splendid one to beholdnecessarily benevolent is a splendid one to behold
United Kingdom
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: St Andrews
Posts: 9,218
My Societies
Default Re: Additional Further Maths
 
I know of someone at my school last year who had 5 As including Additional Further Maths and had to settle for Computer Science at Cambridge (as opposed to Maths) because he didn't do magnificently in the STEP and "only" got a Merit in the AEA.
Old 08-11-2008: 8th November 2008 12:49 #9 
IrrationalNumber IrrationalNumber is offline Male
Exalted and Worshipped Member
IrrationalNumber has a reputation beyond reputeIrrationalNumber has a reputation beyond reputeIrrationalNumber has a reputation beyond reputeIrrationalNumber has a reputation beyond reputeIrrationalNumber has a reputation beyond reputeIrrationalNumber has a reputation beyond reputeIrrationalNumber has a reputation beyond reputeIrrationalNumber has a reputation beyond reputeIrrationalNumber has a reputation beyond reputeIrrationalNumber has a reputation beyond reputeIrrationalNumber has a reputation beyond repute
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Clapham
Posts: 915
Default Re: Additional Further Maths
 
It's worthwhile. But STEP is more worthwhile. Doing both is good
Old 08-11-2008: 8th November 2008 12:56 #10 
jamesh_91 jamesh_91 is offline Male
Exalted Member
Thread Starter
jamesh_91 will become famous soon enoughjamesh_91 will become famous soon enough
United Kingdom
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 336
Default Re: Additional Further Maths
 
Originally Posted by SimonM
Sorry. I love maths a huge amount but it certainly doesn't spur me to study more modules. If anything it makes me want to explore a variety of different branches of the subject which aren't taught in schools

i see your point but the way i see it aswell is by studying extra modules then i am also furthering my experience in maths and learning new subject areas which interest me especially mechanics and pure

so the majority think it won't enhance my application to oxbridge to do maths?
 
Old 08-11-2008: 8th November 2008 13:00 #11 
darkness9999's Avatar
darkness9999 darkness9999 is offline
Exalted and Worshipped Member
darkness9999 is a glorious beacon of lightdarkness9999 is a glorious beacon of lightdarkness9999 is a glorious beacon of lightdarkness9999 is a glorious beacon of lightdarkness9999 is a glorious beacon of lightdarkness9999 is a glorious beacon of light
Germany
Join Date: May 2008
Location: London
Posts: 1,127
Send a message via MSN to darkness9999
Default Re: Additional Further Maths
 
Do Step I,II and III it is better then AFM
Old 08-11-2008: 8th November 2008 13:02 #12 
BrightGirl BrightGirl is offline Female
TSR Demigod
BrightGirl has a reputation beyond reputeBrightGirl has a reputation beyond reputeBrightGirl has a reputation beyond reputeBrightGirl has a reputation beyond reputeBrightGirl has a reputation beyond reputeBrightGirl has a reputation beyond reputeBrightGirl has a reputation beyond reputeBrightGirl has a reputation beyond reputeBrightGirl has a reputation beyond reputeBrightGirl has a reputation beyond reputeBrightGirl has a reputation beyond repute
United Kingdom
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: England
Posts: 5,368
My Societies
Default Re: Additional Further Maths
 
Originally Posted by SimonM
Erm, last year Trinity actually stipulated in someone's offer that they would not accept an A in AFM

Yeah but they weren't rejected were they, which is what he was saying.

OP if you don't think it's too stressful then do it! If I had the chance to squeeze in some more maths and get an A, it would only be a good thing. You have physics and chemistry too anyway!
 
Old 08-11-2008: 8th November 2008 13:03 #13 
SimonM's Avatar
SimonM SimonM is offline Male
TSR Demigod
SimonM has a ridiculously high reputationSimonM has a ridiculously high reputationSimonM has a ridiculously high reputationSimonM has a ridiculously high reputationSimonM has a ridiculously high reputationSimonM has a ridiculously high reputationSimonM has a ridiculously high reputationSimonM has a ridiculously high reputationSimonM has a ridiculously high reputationSimonM has a ridiculously high reputationSimonM has a ridiculously high reputationSimonM has a ridiculously high reputationSimonM has a ridiculously high reputation
Guernsey
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Guernsey
Posts: 6,161
My Societies
Send a message via AIM to SimonM Send a message via MSN to SimonM Send a message via Skype™ to SimonM
Default Re: Additional Further Maths
 
Originally Posted by BrightGirl
Yeah but they weren't rejected were they, which is what he was saying.

OP if you don't think it's too stressful then do it! If I had the chance to squeeze in some more maths and get an A, it would only be a good thing. You have physics and chemistry too anyway!

No, but it is a strong indicator of how the view it. BrightGirl "stressful" is the wrong word. For the top mathematicians an extra module is little if not no work at all.
Old 08-11-2008: 8th November 2008 13:05 #14 
Resistance_Futile's Avatar
Resistance_Futile Resistance_Futile is offline Male
Junior Member
Resistance_Futile will become famous soon enough
Wales
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Kingston
Posts: 60
Default Re: Additional Further Maths
 
I did AFM AS. If you did that then you could carry on economics - you should find just FM not too difficult if you're going for Oxbridge maths. And yeah, If you're looking at Cambridge you'll need to do some STEP, which is not at all trivial so bear that in mind.
 
Old 08-11-2008: 8th November 2008 13:06 #15 
darkness9999's Avatar
darkness9999 darkness9999 is offline
Exalted and Worshipped Member
darkness9999 is a glorious beacon of lightdarkness9999 is a glorious beacon of lightdarkness9999 is a glorious beacon of lightdarkness9999 is a glorious beacon of lightdarkness9999 is a glorious beacon of lightdarkness9999 is a glorious beacon of light
Germany
Join Date: May 2008
Location: London
Posts: 1,127
Send a message via MSN to darkness9999
Default Re: Additional Further Maths
 
you guys are lucky ... that ur colleges offer FM and AFM... we had to force our college to do AS FM ...
Old 08-11-2008: 8th November 2008 13:10 #16 
Resistance_Futile's Avatar
Resistance_Futile Resistance_Futile is offline Male
Junior Member
Resistance_Futile will become famous soon enough
Wales
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Kingston
Posts: 60
Default Re: Additional Further Maths
 
well tbh I had to study it all myself - no help from teachers at all really. and I was the only one doing it in the whole school. Not many places will actually teach you AFM.
 
Old 08-11-2008: 8th November 2008 13:12 #17 
Magical Moogles's Avatar
Magical Moogles Magical Moogles is offline Male
Adored and Respected Member
Magical Moogles has much to be proud ofMagical Moogles has much to be proud ofMagical Moogles has much to be proud ofMagical Moogles has much to be proud ofMagical Moogles has much to be proud ofMagical Moogles has much to be proud ofMagical Moogles has much to be proud ofMagical Moogles has much to be proud of
United Kingdom
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Far Far Away!
Posts: 525
My Societies
Default Re: Additional Further Maths
 
I feel so stupid. This is the first time I have heard of 'additional' Further Maths, and I thought Maths was my passion?

Oh, I have heard of people wanting to do the complete 18 modules, but I thought it was more for a challenge rather then getting an extra qualification for doing it.

OP. I think you would be better with sticking to what you have got to be honest. You don't need additional Further Maths to get into Oxbridge. Economics would look so much better IMO.

You're going to have a lot of work in A2 thinking about it. Even without additional Further Maths!

Er....good luck to you!
 
Old 08-11-2008: 8th November 2008 13:12 #18 
BrightGirl BrightGirl is offline Female
TSR Demigod
BrightGirl has a reputation beyond reputeBrightGirl has a reputation beyond reputeBrightGirl has a reputation beyond reputeBrightGirl has a reputation beyond reputeBrightGirl has a reputation beyond reputeBrightGirl has a reputation beyond reputeBrightGirl has a reputation beyond reputeBrightGirl has a reputation beyond reputeBrightGirl has a reputation beyond reputeBrightGirl has a reputation beyond reputeBrightGirl has a reputation beyond repute
United Kingdom
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: England
Posts: 5,368
My Societies
Default Re: Additional Further Maths
 
Originally Posted by SimonM
No, but it is a strong indicator of how the view it. BrightGirl "stressful" is the wrong word. For the top mathematicians an extra module is little if not no work at all.

That's fine but it just seemed like you were saying that what he said was wrong, but it was only from personal experience.
If the OPs a 'top mathematician', he'd be able to do it easily, but others are saying do STEP, so I dunno.
If I were to do fmaths alongside another maths, i'd be stressed, but then again i'm not the best of mathematicians so y'know.
 
Old 08-11-2008: 8th November 2008 13:22 #19 
dramaminedreams dramaminedreams is offline Male
Banned by request
dramaminedreams is a jewel in the roughdramaminedreams is a jewel in the roughdramaminedreams is a jewel in the rough
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: England
My Societies
Default Re: Additional Further Maths
 
I'm doing Maths, Further Maths, Additional Further Maths and Economics at A2 and am applying for economics at Cambridge. I don't think it's that stressful or difficult... just fast. (S4 is bitch though)
Old 08-11-2008: 8th November 2008 13:27 #20 
jamesh_91 jamesh_91 is offline Male
Exalted Member
Thread Starter
jamesh_91 will become famous soon enoughjamesh_91 will become famous soon enough
United Kingdom
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 336
Default Re: Additional Further Maths
 
well i teaching myself in my maths lessons because the pace is so slow but in my further maths lessons the teachers teach me but thats because the group has alot higer mathematical ability to the pace is really fast and i prefer it that way... well i like economics but because i LOVE all my other subjects then it seems to me as i don't like it if you get what i'm saying

oxbridge evening at my school is in two weeks so ill talk to the teachers there and at parents evening next week see what they think thanks for all your opinions have helped me make a decision

any more views would be helpful though

thanks alot,
James Howell
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread
Advanced
Search