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Can i jsut make clear that I am all for private education. I just wanted to start the thread with balanced questions that invite you to give your own answers, although many posters feel that my first post seemed anti-private education. I hope people here don't regard the first post as either for or against private education.

Reply 61

im so academic

In my people if you can afford it, you should have the right to buy want you want - whether that's a plasma tv or private education. however I feel that everyone should be able to have the opportunity to go private, but some people don't have the chance, even though they deserve it.

Reply 62

jelly1000

dollydaydream

I understand your points completely but you have to be polite, well behaved and meet different people at state schools!

I guess it depends on which school you go to - our comp pushes everyone hard; a C is not enough if you are capable of doing better.

When you talk about these kids that are polite, well behaved etc in private schools - do you think that they are different than other kids of the same age in state schools? In most cases it's not about the school they go to, but their background...

I understand what you mean about the background, most of these kids are more likely to be lower class. But I feel the school could do more to raise the standards of behaviour & not just tolerate the described behaviour. And lots of kids came from state primaries to my school, many of whom would have been on bursaries. They behaved in the same polite manner that all the kids from private primaries did, even those who came in yr10 from state secondaries behaved politely.

And I'm not saying you don't have to meet different people, but their was greater respect for people, even if you didn't get along with them than at my current school.

Reply 63

jelly1000

tw7055

i did the opposite to you. i went to state school and then to private boarding school. Best decision i ever made. Everyone at my old school coasted along, including me. At boarding school everyone strove to achieve more. An A wasnt enough, there was competition to get the highest UMS scores etc. As a result everyone achieved more. Not only that but we did a whole load of extra curricular stuff that state schools never encourage which has made me a far more rounded member of societ

I do often wish I could have stayed at my old school. But unfortunatley the money ran out & I've heard the new school busar is very nasty :frown:

Reply 64

Isherwood

Why should you think its wrong. We live in a captialist society; Money makes things happen. You pay for a higher chance to get higher grades. To be fair you can go to a state, knock on Tution after school and do summer schools and implement revision plans for your child and they'll probably do as well as they would in a private. In private i didn't give a damn, i messed about and did nothing. As a result I got kicked out and stuck in state; probably the best decision ever i've realised not to take things for granted especially my education.

Reply 65

dollydaydream

jelly1000

True

Do private schools have much in the way of behavioural programs or similar? Our school has a strict approach but then I think, seeing other peoples' posts, that my school is different to most. It may depend on the area, I guess...

Reply 66

Amy***

jelly1000

I do often wish I could have stayed at my old school. But unfortunatley the money ran out & I've heard the new school busar is very nasty :frown:

Well that sadly is the reality of the private sector. When your money runs out you're suddenly not such an attractive customer...

Reply 67

Amy_J

Thread of this ilk become increasingly boring every time they're done.

Private education is a wonderful thing.

Reply 68

tw7055

Amy***

Well that sadly is the reality of the private sector. When your money runs out you're suddenly not such an attractive customer...

but this is also the problem with society as a whole; all of the poorly educated plebs are draining the welfare system of funds that should be used to provide a better education

Reply 69

837491

Amy***

Well that sadly is the reality of the private sector. When your money runs out you're suddenly not such an attractive customer...

stop talking about things you know nothing about.

feel free to contribute to threads about being dumb or ignorant.

Reply 70

jelly1000

dollydaydream

True

Not really, other than outlining school rules clearly. It was just expected of you to behave politely, and those who didn't stuck out like a sore thumb.

Reply 71

aeonflux

Amy***

Well that sadly is the reality of the private sector. When your money runs out you're suddenly not such an attractive customer...

Would you prefer communism?

Reply 72

Amy***

aeonflux

Would you prefer communism?

I'd prefer socialism - or a similar system which ideally would be meritocratic.

Reply 73

paperclip

Why is everyone talking about how well behaved private school lads are? :s-smilie:

I've been in Surrey for a few weeks and have seen private school kids in their blazers behaving just as badly as a chav!

EDIT: here's a good example

:clip:

Reply 74

Elementric

Amy***

Yes, of course, private education is partly a status symbol for the rich and partly a way to ensure continued privilege for their children.

Yes, of course - there is nothing moral about exacerbating inequality purely for your own greedy self interest

Yes. But it will never happen.

I'm going to be honest here, because honesty is always the best policy. From this post, I would judge you to be unbelievably deluded.
A 'status symbol'? LOL.
My parents sent me to private school because they worked ******* hard to earn enough money to give me and my brother the best education possible - which isn't from the state that's for sure. So don't you dare talk about 'status symbols'

Besides, if you can afford a bed to sleep in and buy one, it doesn't make you 'immoral' and 'greedy'.

Unbelievable.

Reply 75

millyme

Good bloke

Then you'll even more concerned at the amount in extra taxes you'd have to pay, should private education be banned, in order for those currently in private education to be educated in the state sector; it outweighs the tax breaks many times over.

Exactly. Why do people always forget that private school parents are effectively paying twice, both for a private education (i.e. fees) and state education (i.e. tax), so without private schools there'd be far less money available per state child. So it seems to me that everyone actually benefits.

Reply 76

running_with_scissors

Amy***

I'd prefer socialism - or a similar system which ideally would be meritocratic.

Socialism is the antithesis of meritocracy.
It will never work.

Reply 77

Elementric

Actually I don't see how this is even a discussion. We may as well be discussing whether wearing socks to avoid frostbite, infection and eventual death makes you a greedy immoral toff.

Reply 78

Amy***

Elementric

It might not be a status symbol for you but it certainly is for others - for the wealthy. From your post it seems you wouldn't consider yourself to have 'wealth' (i.e. unearned income) so I don't see why you would be so offended by what I have said.

My parents also work hard but chose to send me to a state school - i believe I've had a very good education thankyou very much. If you're offended by my thoughts on private schools why should I not be offended by your apparent snobbery and ignorance concerning the state sector.

Obviously you are ignoring the point that everybody deserves a good education - whether their parents worked hard or not.

Reply 79

sasha11

Yes, it is a problem that Oxbridge applicants from private schools are way out of proportion to those from state schools -

But why should it be down to universities to make up for substandard government education???? It's not their responsibility to ensure everyone receives good enough secondary education.

And wouldn't you rather get into a university on your own merit, rather than because they feel sorry for you because of where you went to school???
I'd find that rather patronising tbh.