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Can The War On Terrorism Be Won?
Terrorist attacks have increased beyond comprehensible rates in the past decade, yet all that has been achieved is two ridiculed wars, which most people were against, that have resulted in the many more deaths of innocents as collateral.
It seems like whenever a group of people have reached a triggering point, they go and attack the public to get attention and cause as many as deaths as possible. The sad fact is that more so than often, there is more loss of innocent lives than terrorists killed.
104 people have so far been confirmed to have lost their lives in Mumbai. Where does it end? Terrorism isn't an army, it isn't a nation, or a political group, it's not a religion, it's not one specific target. It's an ideology. How do you wage a war against an ideology when anyone can become the enemy at will? I read many people have the generalisation that terrorists "hate our freedom, our way of life" etc, but this doesn't seem logical. Our way of life has always existed. Listening to the news, one group of hostage takers in India are claiming their actions are based on the abuse of the Indian armed forces in the Kashmir region. I have this opinion that this War on Terror has actually motivated some idiots.
The Afghan government has even gone as far as opening negotiations with the Taliban. Are we headed in the same direction?
It seems like whenever a group of people have reached a triggering point, they go and attack the public to get attention and cause as many as deaths as possible. The sad fact is that more so than often, there is more loss of innocent lives than terrorists killed.
104 people have so far been confirmed to have lost their lives in Mumbai. Where does it end? Terrorism isn't an army, it isn't a nation, or a political group, it's not a religion, it's not one specific target. It's an ideology. How do you wage a war against an ideology when anyone can become the enemy at will? I read many people have the generalisation that terrorists "hate our freedom, our way of life" etc, but this doesn't seem logical. Our way of life has always existed. Listening to the news, one group of hostage takers in India are claiming their actions are based on the abuse of the Indian armed forces in the Kashmir region. I have this opinion that this War on Terror has actually motivated some idiots.
The Afghan government has even gone as far as opening negotiations with the Taliban. Are we headed in the same direction?
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The war on terrorism will never be won. It can never be won.
Perhaps if we were less willing to give into terrorist demands and less willing to show them that terrorism is an effective weapon, we might stand a chance. As it is though with Germany, Italy, etc being soft on terrorists releasing them, making deals with them etc I don't think that's good.
Why terrorism works by Alan Dershowitz is a great book on the subject OP.
Why terrorism works by Alan Dershowitz is a great book on the subject OP.
Nah, I don't think it can.
Diffrences between states over the nature and scope of the terrorist threat, and the most appropriate ways to combat it, reflect subjective characterisations based on national biases and experiences.
To try and deal with it, its the messages that appeal to and inspire terrorists to commit acts of violence, that should be addressed.
Diffrences between states over the nature and scope of the terrorist threat, and the most appropriate ways to combat it, reflect subjective characterisations based on national biases and experiences.
To try and deal with it, its the messages that appeal to and inspire terrorists to commit acts of violence, that should be addressed.
Perhaps the way we can stop terror is to just .. stop messing about with these people's countries and leave them alone?
Fighting something isn't the only way to make it go away.
Fighting something isn't the only way to make it go away.
humayun18
come on be realistic.....where were all these bastard terrorists ten years ago. they've quadrupled now because of the wars and there's no way to put them down. germany france and italy are heading in the right direction. Even Karzai has asked the foreign forces to give a timeline to leave afghanistan. It all started as an american ploy to expand its presence in the Middle East and these are the 'birth pangs of a new Middle East.' **** the whole of bush administration and US agencies.
Erm....blowing **** up? Taking hostages? Hijacking aircraft?
They've increased because places like Germany France and Italy are willing to let them off scot free to get a heroes welcome when they return home, how is that teaching them any lesson? Palestinians have been employing terrorism and the UN moves them up the list of causing deserving attention as a reward for it, they should be taught that terrorism will get them ignored and moved down the list. There are plenty of oppressed, poor people in the world who don't resort to terrorism.
humayun18
did they not have an objective? what is the objective now? their struggle was confined to a certain region. this 'new' terrorism knows no boundaries no religion no state and their is definitely no objecitve
funny i thought it was radical islam trying to dismantle the corrupt morality of the west
I really doubt Terrorism will go on for much longer...
Keep in mind that it is a very modern concept: it appeared only shortly after the second world war.
I think it'll disappear after a couple of generations.
Fanatical groups, like Al-Qaeda, will fade away as Western countries' influence grows in Middle Eastern countries... The hatred towards us will disappear as they get used to our culture.
Other groups, such as ETA and the IRA, will probably persist for years to come. The difference is that these groups fight for political reasons, such as independence.
But these groups aren't an international threat, and aren't as much as an issue... we wouldn't hear much about them as they don't threat the USA or other countries: they just concentrate on one small part of the world, and are quite easy to negotiate with, unlike Al-Qaeda.
Keep in mind that it is a very modern concept: it appeared only shortly after the second world war.
I think it'll disappear after a couple of generations.
Fanatical groups, like Al-Qaeda, will fade away as Western countries' influence grows in Middle Eastern countries... The hatred towards us will disappear as they get used to our culture.
Other groups, such as ETA and the IRA, will probably persist for years to come. The difference is that these groups fight for political reasons, such as independence.
But these groups aren't an international threat, and aren't as much as an issue... we wouldn't hear much about them as they don't threat the USA or other countries: they just concentrate on one small part of the world, and are quite easy to negotiate with, unlike Al-Qaeda.
Nope. We're gonna lose.
The vast majority of people were VERY strongly in favour of the Afghanistan war. This was a clear base of a terrorist organisation seeking the destruction of the west and the government of the country sympathised with the terrorists within and refused to hand them over to western authorities.
There is no question of whether the Afghanistan war was the correct course of action, however the reasons for going to Iraq were at best ridiculous and at worst terrible.
The war on terror can be won, but it can't be won with conventional armies etc. There has to be a dual campaign. One to win the hearts and minds of Muslims living in poor, deprived regions of the world and one to annihilate all those who seek the demise of the west.
In order to win the hearts and minds of muslims all over the world we need to open our boarders to trade, we need to invest in their countries and give their children opportunities to get an education, got university and propser. We need to build schools, hospitals, universities, roads etc across the middle east and the developing world. We need to stop embracing nationalistic policies involving trade barriers, tarrifs etc that keep the developing world impoverished and start treating all those in the developing world like they are human. When we fail to step in and provide funds for development, when we put up tarriffs and close our boarders, when we decline to build schools and hospitals or fund universities in the developing world, then radical islamist groups step in and take over. They offer the people education, but at a price and that price is indoctrination which makes them hate us.
So we need a violent, brutal war on terror to crush the groups that have already sprung up with the determination to destroy our society. Those people in them it is too late to save, however there is a whole generation of muslims in the middle east, africa and developing world who we could prevent from hating us just by funding education and health services and opening up the world of opportunity to them that we in the west take for granted.
There is no question of whether the Afghanistan war was the correct course of action, however the reasons for going to Iraq were at best ridiculous and at worst terrible.
The war on terror can be won, but it can't be won with conventional armies etc. There has to be a dual campaign. One to win the hearts and minds of Muslims living in poor, deprived regions of the world and one to annihilate all those who seek the demise of the west.
In order to win the hearts and minds of muslims all over the world we need to open our boarders to trade, we need to invest in their countries and give their children opportunities to get an education, got university and propser. We need to build schools, hospitals, universities, roads etc across the middle east and the developing world. We need to stop embracing nationalistic policies involving trade barriers, tarrifs etc that keep the developing world impoverished and start treating all those in the developing world like they are human. When we fail to step in and provide funds for development, when we put up tarriffs and close our boarders, when we decline to build schools and hospitals or fund universities in the developing world, then radical islamist groups step in and take over. They offer the people education, but at a price and that price is indoctrination which makes them hate us.
So we need a violent, brutal war on terror to crush the groups that have already sprung up with the determination to destroy our society. Those people in them it is too late to save, however there is a whole generation of muslims in the middle east, africa and developing world who we could prevent from hating us just by funding education and health services and opening up the world of opportunity to them that we in the west take for granted.
No. You cant actually declare "war" on terrorism as it is not a physical thing / place. sure, it may be possible to "win" the war in iraq or wherever but thats not the end of terrorism. i mean, anybody with the right equipment could make a simple explosive device and blow it up somewhere, but i doubt they would have tanks rolling into their garden.
Thud
Erm....blowing **** up? Taking hostages? Hijacking aircraft?
Please... Please...
Terrorism isn't much of an issue, in my opinion. The media does exagerate it all quite a bit, and we forget that terrorism is nothing compared to Cancer, Car accidents, or other day to day things that we don't seem to care about... basically because they are boring.
Terrorism seems big right now because it's a novelty, not because it's actually a big thing.
Thud
Palestinians have been employing terrorism and the UN moves them up the list of causing deserving attention as a reward for it, they should be taught that terrorism will get them ignored and moved down the list. There are plenty of oppressed, poor people in the world who don't resort to terrorism.
Incredible
There will be terrorism as long as people disagree, and feel like they are being marginalised. Terrorism occurs when a small group of people suddenly has the capacity and the motivation to do something that can hurt many - resulting in violent goals that are more punitive rather than objective-oriented. Technology has aided this in recent times, but terrorism isn't new by any respect (think Guy Fawkes, salting of Carthage, blah).
C_B_C
Please... Please...
Terrorism isn't much of an issue, in my opinion. The media does exagerate it all quite a bit, and we forget that terrorism is nothing compared to Cancer, Car accidents, or other day to day things that we don't seem to care about... basically because they are boring.
Terrorism seems big right now because it's a novelty, not because it's actually a big thing.
Terrorism isn't much of an issue, in my opinion. The media does exagerate it all quite a bit, and we forget that terrorism is nothing compared to Cancer, Car accidents, or other day to day things that we don't seem to care about... basically because they are boring.
Terrorism seems big right now because it's a novelty, not because it's actually a big thing.
Yes but what happens when they get hold of a nuclear bomb?
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