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Old 07-12-2008: 7th December 2008 16:47 #1 
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Stems from http://www.telegraph.co.uk/global/ma...ftwives116.xml

Decadent stay-at-home wives who take their rich husbands for a ride have finally been rumbled, says Tara Winter Wilson


Rich men, I believe, have finally cottoned on to the sinister side of the stay-at-home wife: unless you marry an equal who's going to pay her own way, you will end up with a lazy, indulgent, over-pampered slug. For the transition from trophy wife to toxic wife is as fast as the end result is furious.


The fallout from the credit crunch and the rise in the number of cases hitting the divorce law firms has made this hit the headlines.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/portal/ma...fttoxic102.xml

''Just turn up at Mahiki, (the London nightclub frequented by Princes William and Harry) and you'll find an army of potential TWs... they're like a gang of seductive, pretty vampires who are sharpening their talons and teeth in a bid to catch a rich husband and then suck him dry of his hard-earned cash. It's common knowledge now that one of the most lucrative careers a woman can have is to get married, have a child, and get divorced.''


Do you know anyone who has identified the above as a future plan of action post university?

For those of you who post on the careers forum, how are you going to avoid the above?
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The whole concept of marrying for money is pretty bizarre to be honest. Women who aim for that are... well I would say a disgrace, but that's maybe a bit harsh. They'res letting themselves down, I suppose.. In this day and age, when no woman needs to rely on a husband for support, I can't comprehend why a woman would actively seek a husband purely for cash reasons. We're not in the 19th century any more, folks!
 
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Originally Posted by imomo16
The whole concept of marrying for money is pretty bizarre to be honest. Women who aim for that are... well I would say a disgrace, but that's maybe a bit harsh. They'res letting themselves down, I suppose.. In this day and age, when no woman needs to rely on a husband for support, I can't comprehend why a woman would actively seek a husband purely for cash reasons. We're not in the 19th century any more, folks!

Because it seems like the easiest option?
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Women can do what they want. If rich men are stupid enough to fall for this then that's their problem.

It's neither stupid, a man willing to give everything for a bit of nookie! You get a great house, luxurious living, designer everything- all for what. Everyone is out for what they can get, it's just you're all jealous because these women have it easier

And the divorce hahahaha. He's only divorcing her for a newer model anyway, it's only fair she gets half his house lololol
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Originally Posted by belle_xx
Because it seems like the easiest option?

Only if money and material posessions are your primary motives in life, which is a pretty sad way to be in both meanings of the word.
 
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Originally Posted by Prince Rhyus
Do you know anyone who has identified the above as a future plan of action post university?

I know a few girls who are doing hard uni subjects that have openly admitted that they are only there to find a rich future husband (since that subject often leads to a high paying job). A lot of girls, when asked, say that money is an important factor in love and getting married. I know a few absolute ***** that girls like solely because they have money. So yes, gold diggers are quite common but easily avoided if you follow a few simple rules I will list below:

For those of you who post on the careers forum, how are you going to avoid the above?

1) Don't get married at a young age. A lot of girls will have done crap at uni because of too much partying and not enough studying, or just chose mickey mouse subjects anyway, and thus when it comes to graduation time in the early twenties they realise that they probably won't make much money with their own careers and thus will look for a rich husband.

2) And when/if you do get married, get a prenup. The more assets you've purchased yourself on your own finances, the more important this is.

3) Don't open yourself up to a gold diggers claws. The more you spend on a girl the more she'll take and the more she'll expect from you. If you buy her everything she wants she'll just see you as a walking wallet. Let her spend her own money on stuff she wants unless it's her birthday, Christmas, or some other special occasion. And when you're out at clubs, don't be buying girls drinks. I don't buy girls anything at all unless I've slept with them or if we're just friends I'll occasionally cook for them and vice versa.

By being tight with your money you will not be able to attract the gold diggers.

4) Don't boast about how much you make, and if asked by a girl (you'll be amazed by the amount of girls who start asking how much you make once you get a bit older - I've been told so by older friends) tell her a small amount. If she really likes you your supposedly low wage won't put her off, but with a gold digger she'll be off within a month.

5) Always use protection when having sex unless you want a child yourself. A woman's word that she is on the pill is not good enough. Many millions of men are told this by their partners when she is deliberately not on the pill, as to hopefully get pregnant and thus be owed child support for the next 18 years. Don't fall into this trap. It's a classical tactic utilised by gold diggers.

Hopefully if you read the above tips, and think with the head on your shoulders and not the other one, you'll avoid the gold diggers and still have a house to live in during your midlife crisis.
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Originally Posted by Smack
1) Don't get married at a young age. A lot of girls will have done crap at uni because of too much partying and not enough studying, or just chose mickey mouse subjects anyway, and thus when it comes to graduation time in the early twenties they realise that they probably won't make much money with their own careers and thus will look for a rich husband.

2) And when/if you do get married, get a prenup. The more assets you've purchased yourself on your own finances, the more important this is.

3) Don't open yourself up to a gold diggers claws. The more you spend on a girl the more she'll take and the more she'll expect from you. If you buy her everything she wants she'll just see you as a walking wallet. Let her spend her own money on stuff she wants unless it's her birthday, Christmas, or some other special occasion. And when you're out at clubs, don't be buying girls drinks. I don't buy girls anything at all unless I've slept with them or if we're just friends I'll occasionally cook for them and vice versa.

By being tight with your money you will not be able to attract the gold diggers.

4) Don't boast about how much you make, and if asked by a girl (you'll be amazed by the amount of girls who start asking how much you make once you get a bit older - I've been told so by older friends) tell her a small amount. If she really likes you your supposedly low wage won't put her off, but with a gold digger she'll be off within a month.

5) Always use protection when having sex unless you want a child yourself. A woman's word that she is on the pill is not good enough. Many millions of men are told this by their partners when she is deliberately not on the pill, as to hopefully get pregnant and thus be owed child support for the next 18 years. Don't fall into this trap. It's a classical tactic utilised by gold diggers.

You are an idiot, quite frankly.

1) There's no problem with marrying relatively young. And anyway, age will not wittle out all golddiggers.

2) I would never sign a prenup, no matter how rich my fiance was. Even if he was dirt poor, I wouldn't sign one. It's setting your marriage up for failure, and I want a lifelong successful marriage, thank you very much.

3) By being tight with your money, you will be very unattractive to many many many women. I'm not saying it's necessary to splash out on expensive gifts, but there's nothing wrong with buying her a drink in a club or surprising her with flowers now and then! I don't even mean expensive drinks and flowers since it's also the thought that counts.

4) Since it's uncouth to talk about money anyway, I'm not touching this point.

5) You should always use protection regardless. STDs etc don't sound fun!
 
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Originally Posted by imomo16
The whole concept of marrying for money is pretty bizarre to be honest. Women who aim for that are... well I would say a disgrace, but that's maybe a bit harsh. They'res letting themselves down, I suppose.. In this day and age, when no woman needs to rely on a husband for support, I can't comprehend why a woman would actively seek a husband purely for cash reasons. We're not in the 19th century any more, folks!

Hm...spend twenty years climbing the career ladder or marry a rich guy and divorce him later? Which one sounds easier to you?
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I wouldnt marry for money at all.
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I'm totally planning on marrying someone wealthy so I have time to be a trophy wife.
 
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Originally Posted by georgia
You are an idiot, quite frankly.

Thank you. If I'm upsetting certain types of people I must be doing something right.

1) There's no problem with marrying relatively young. And anyway, age will not wittle out all golddiggers.

It wittles out the ones that failed early on and know that they are going to do crappy and that the only way they'll have money is to marry into it.

2) I would never sign a prenup, no matter how rich my fiance was. Even if he was dirt poor, I wouldn't sign one. It's setting your marriage up for failure, and I want a lifelong successful marriage, thank you very much.

No, it's called protecting your assets. All the rich sensible men are doing it to protect themselves from career divorcees, gold diggers, etc. I'd, and so would many lawyers, advise anyone who has much to their name to get one. You're living in fantasy land if you think otherwise.

3) By being tight with your money, you will be very unattractive to many many many women. I'm not saying it's necessary to splash out on expensive gifts, but there's nothing wrong with buying her a drink in a club or surprising her with flowers now and then! I don't even mean expensive drinks and flowers since it's also the thought that counts.

Yes, the gold diggers, the ones I don't want to be attractive to. I've met plenty of decent women who couldn't care that I'm tight with my money. Because a decent women doesn't care about money. Gold diggers, on the other hand ...

4) Since it's uncouth to talk about money anyway, I'm not touching this point.

True, a decent women won't ask a prospective partner how much he earns.

5) You should always use protection regardless. STDs etc don't sound fun!

No one is saying otherwise.
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Originally Posted by Joanna May
Hm...spend twenty years climbing the career ladder or marry a rich guy and divorce him later? Which one sounds easier to you?

Which one sounds more fulfilling and interesting?
 
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Which one sounds more fulfilling and interesting?

To be honest, marrying a rich man and having the time to enjoy his money to travel the world, go to good parties, buy absolutely anything I like and treat my friends and family on special occasions sounds a lot more interesting to me than sitting in an office, slogging my guts out and not having the time or energy outside work to enjoy the rewards.
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Originally Posted by Joanna May
To be honest, marrying a rich man and having the time to enjoy his money to travel the world, go to good parties, buy absolutely anything I like and treat my friends and family on special occasions sounds a lot more interesting to me than sitting in an office, slogging my guts out and not having the time or energy outside work to enjoy the rewards.

Each to his own.
Money and material possessions and the leisure that goes with them would be nice, but I would much rather earn them off my own back than leech them off of a rich partner.
 
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Each to his own.
Money and material possessions and the leisure that goes with them would be nice, but I would much rather earn them off my own back than leech them off of a rich partner.

I don't like the term "leech". The husband is clearly willing for these women to spend their money, it's not "leeching" at all. Besides, as mentioned below, a lot of these wives are raising the children, so aren't going to stress themselves out by juggling work and a family when they have no need to.
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Hang on a second here, what about all those wives who work their whole lives in the home, looking after kids, the husband, doing all the chores and keeping everyone happy, then getting a divorce, and ending up with nothing because they didn't work, you know?
A housewife, or househusband, who actually does all the stuff deserves as much respect as the other party who's out working.
Yeah, if she's going to get manicures all day etc, then there's an issue; but plenty of stay at home spouses to a bloody good job

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There's nothing new to this, it's been going on for years and "rich men" have known it's been going on for years. It just makes for a delightful news story of Wifezillas who simply want to be paid for being a wife.

To be honest that would bore me senseless, unless there are children to look after [or indeed animals XD], and even then a day or two a week to help contribute to everything would be welcome. I'd hate to know that everything I did I could only due because of the OH's money, i'd much rather work at least part time and use that to pursue hobbies/aid in bill payments/etc.

Seems like far too much hardwork for me to cope with though, i'll leave it to the professionals.
 
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My mum and auntie pretty much wants that for me, it's so annoying - I think they're only half joking about marrying a rich guy! Relying on someone for anything would be my absolute nightmare. As would not having my own money tucked away in a little account somewhere for security. I'd get bored at home all day anyway.
 
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