[nolongerhearthemusic]

Nooooo, what will Europe do without God?

Oh wait it's got better the more Godless it's become.

[Mr M]

(Original post by mahfood1990)
I saw it the other way around.
The OP makes me feel shocked that there are people with that mindset on TSR.

Well, I don't think there are many people like that around here. I presumed the OP was trolling to try to provoke a reaction.

[roots]

(Original post by nolongerhearthemusic)
Nooooo, what will Europe do without God?

Oh wait it's got better the more Godless it's become.

Society, behaviour, ethics, morals, standards, manners, family. Its falling apart.

[nolongerhearthemusic]

(Original post by roots)
Society, behaviour, ethics, morals, standards, manners, family. Its falling apart.

How? I think it gets better all the time.

[halfoflessthan50p]

(Original post by Itchynscratchy)

(Original post by thania)
The replies on here are making me laugh, as they show British ignorance at its worst. If a scientist told you the world was flat, you'd believe them.

Oh the irony

haha

if a priest told you the Sun revolved around the Earth, YOU'd believe them!

[Broderss]

(Original post by thania)
(IMO fossils were put on the earth to test our faith).

So there is evidence not to believe in God, and no evidence to actually believe in God?

[Magnum Opus]

bump

[~ABR~]

Post from another thread moved here:

(Original post by Secretariats)

Evolution is far more of a blow to Islam than the Big Bang is to atheism.

Evolution was a scientific topic discussed amongst the Muslim scientists well before Darwin was even born. (See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_science#Zoology) Darwin was heavily influenced by these Muslim biologists and zoologists, so evolution is far from being a blow on Islam.

Read read the link I posted which explains our stance on Evolution, and see the book in my signature.We do not simply deny everything in evolution, but at the same time we do not just accept all claims. There are many topics within evolution that are still under dispute and not established. That's why it's still a theory. We are in no position to wholeheartedly swallow the whole pill of evolution as fact.

You guys always criticize religious scholars for "indoctrinating" religious students of knowledge when you have been indoctrinated yourself into accepting everything that evolutionists say. I do not accept or reject a new theory until I read through it and carefully analyze it.

Only the future will testify what I'm saying is true or not.

See you in 2050

(edit) Also see this book:

This book also discusses aspects of molecular genetics. Michaeld Denton is a biologist.

To claim that everything in the theory of evolution is undisputed fact is absolutely delusional and false.

[milliondollarcorpse]

(Original post by ~ABR~)
(edit) Also see this book:

This book also discusses aspects of molecular genetics. Michaeld Denton is a biologist.

To claim that everything in the theory of evolution is undisputed fact is absolutely delusional and false.

This book is extremely out of date. The arguments Denton made in this book were renounced by Denton himself several years ago.

More about it here

[~ABR~]

(Original post by milliondollarcorpse)
This book is extremely out of date. The arguments Denton made in this book were renounced by Denton himself several years ago.

More about it here

I read some parts of this link. If this is not the definition of putting words on Denton's mouth, then what is? The claim that he converted from saying evolution is impossible to evolution is inevitable is laughable. Read the link and find that yourself.
The link you showed me is completely unconvincing.

What about this book?


Edit: Since you are a Math student you should like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTby_e4-Rhg

[AbdalAziz]

Oh my God, this evolutionist was literally torn apart and made to look like a fool by Laurence Tisdall. I'm thinking about getting his DVD's on 'how to debate an evolutionist and NEVER lose!'

Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr6uvUNJLww

[GregoryJL]

How about you creos debate me. I'll start the thread in a week. I've had enough of this rubbish on this forum. It's time to do a rocky and come out of retirement.

[Pocket Calculator]

(Original post by GregoryJL)
How about you creos debate me. I'll start the thread in a week. I've had enough of this rubbish on this forum. It's time to do a rocky and come out of retirement.

well, good luck. but they won't understand what you're telling them, and you'll drown in their waves of copied-and-pasted nonsensical arguments.
and you're assuming they'll be intellectually honest. i've argued with one guy on these boards twice (he'll go unnamed). each time, i managed to get an admission from him that he didn't know enough about geochemistry to have an informed opinion about radiometric dating. and yet later on i'd catch him slagging off radiometric dating in other threads. do they do this deliberately or do they just not understand the concept of honesty?


on that note, i might be doing my own radiometric dating for my masters project. i hope i get the chance. will be interesting to see the kind of **** creationists will accuse me of doing when i give them my results and they see that the method actually works.

[AbdalAziz]

(Original post by GregoryJL)
How about you creos debate me. I'll start the thread in a week. I've had enough of this rubbish on this forum. It's time to do a rocky and come out of retirement.

Ill be straight, I am not even a undergraduate and you are a postgraduate. Rather a stupid line up. Maybe some time in the future.

You were saying in the other thread that the works of Doughlas Axedont even support ID. Well he wrote this just this week:

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2009/10...nial.html#more

[GregoryJL]

No, I'm still and undergrad.

What Axedont says about his work isn't actually important. What his work actually says is the important issue.

[~ABR~]

(Original post by GregoryJL)
No, I'm still and undergrad.

What Axedont says about his work isn't actually important. What his work actually says is the important issue.

What? How come a few months back you were referring me to your book? Who writes a book during undergrad?

Edit: You're studying biology, and I'm studying engineering. So let me educate myself first before I get into a deep debate. I was just tackling the issue in terms of the "big picture", not the very details of it. So let me read my Icons of Evolution book, and maybe one that is on the other side first. I hope my last post on the "Islam and Evolution" thread made it clear why I was saying what i was saying.

[Llamageddon]

hey have you guys figured out that evolution is a fact with a dominant theory that explains much of it yet cos really if you think evolution is wrong no scientist will take you seriously lol

[GregoryJL]

(Original post by ABR)
What? How come a few months back you were referring me to your book? Who writes a book during undergrad?

Edit: You're studying biology, and I'm studying engineering. So let me educate myself first before I get into a deep debate. I was just tackling the issue in terms of the "big picture", not the very details of it. So let me read my Icons of Evolution book, and maybe one that is on the other side first. I hope my last post on the "Islam and Evolution" thread made it clear why I was saying what i was saying.

I'm not writing (or have written) a book, so I apologise if I gave that impression. I have been a (very) junior coauthor on a scientific paper, and I am writing another one at the moment.

[Chess Doctor]

Reposting from another thread;

http://www.parvez-video.com/science.asp

Should take you to the page entitled, 'Evolution in the Light of the Quran'. Please voice your opinions on this, thanks.

[Llamageddon]

(Original post by Yusef Badi)
Reposting from another thread;

http://www.parvez-video.com/science.asp

Should take you to the page entitled, 'Evolution in the Light of the Quran'. Please voice your opinions on this, thanks.

I'd expect an A'level (or maybe even a GCSE) biology student to have a better grasp of natural selection than that. Strawmen, poor grasp of the science and an absurd conclusion... it really has little going for it. Seriously, if you creationists want to take a dig at evolution, at least make an attempt to understand how it works.