Does God Exist?
Discuss religious, spiritual, and theological issues concerning Christianity, Judaism, Islam, or any other religion.
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Re: Does God Exist?Couldn't the firmament be gravity?(Original post by mmmpie)
The incompatibility between Genesis and science is mostly in the order of things. It's easy enough to say that 'day' is a metaphor for 'arbitrary period of time', especially before planets were created.
For example, day one. God creates light, and divides day from night. Now light came into existence 10-12 seconds after the big bang, and days and nights couldn't have occurred on Earth until nearly ten billion years later. That's a long day.
But then on day two, god creates a firmament and divides it into the waters and the skies. Now since water is made mostly from hydrogen and oxygen, and air is made mostly from oxygen and nitrogen, we can equate the firmament with a common precursor. The mass expelled by a supernova that formed the solar nebula is the only way you're going to get large amounts of nitrogen and oxygen. But then god must have made the firmament before making the planet, and before dividing day from night. So the firmament must have been made around lunchtime on day one.
That the order of things in the biblical account of creation is fundamentally wrong is one thing that can't be disguised by claiming it's a metaphor. -
Re: Does God Exist?If you like that book I also recommend the Discourses of Buddha, lots of wisdom there.(Original post by Marc707)
I honestly cant believe I didnt hear about this thing earlier. And of course I know that many people will say it wasnt God, it was Neale's voices, but regardless of whether it was or wasnt, one cant deny the wisdom and truth the words possess. -
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Re: Does God Exist?You'd have thought this evidence would have been discussed quite a bit, and well known if it stood up to scrutiny...(Original post by Jack =))
There is evidence to show whether God does or doesn't exist and those who say otherwise are just ignorant.
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Re: Does God Exist?You'd have to define god first. The god that was proven might be a deistic one that just smokes holy weed all the time now that he's left the universe to do its own thing.(Original post by BambieWambie)
Wouldn't it be scary if God's existence was proven?
I don't think that i should bow down to or thank anyone/thing, i feel like it would be forced or i'll have to burn in hell.
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Re: Does God Exist?Well obviously nobody would know what God was really like, but don't you think people in society would force others to praise God. I think there would be a big world war with all the religions trying to prove that their holy book was the word of God. Now thats super scary!(Original post by chickenonsteroids)
You'd have to define god first. The god that was proven might be a deistic one that just smokes holy weed all the time now that he's left the universe to do its own thing. -
Re: Does God Exist?Or you'd get mega unity with everyone saying they just have different interpretations of God. The God wouldn't need to be praised if it isn't proved to be theistic.(Original post by BambieWambie)
Well obviously nobody would know what God was really like, but don't you think people in society would force others to praise God. I think there would be a big world war with all the religions trying to prove that their holy book was the word of God. Now thats super scary! -
Re: Does God Exist?Well i suppose there would be a bit of both. Conflict and unity!(Original post by chickenonsteroids)
Or you'd get mega unity with everyone saying they just have different interpretations of God. The God wouldn't need to be praised if it isn't proved to be theistic. -
Re: Does God Exist?Like there is now(Original post by BambieWambie)
Well i suppose there would be a bit of both. Conflict and unity!
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Re: Does God Exist?Are you not forced to follow the Law? If you break it your thrown into jail. Yet I never signed the contract so why must I follow the Law?(Original post by BambieWambie)
Wouldn't it be scary if God's existence was proven?
I don't think that i should bow down to or thank anyone/thing, i feel like it would be forced or i'll have to burn in hell.
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Re: Does God Exist?Is there a contract for the bible or the quran? People follow the "rules" out of fear, poor guys.(Original post by Jason2)
Are you not forced to follow the Law? If you break it your thrown into jail. Yet I never signed the contract so why must I follow the Law? -
Re: Does God Exist?(Original post by Alofleicester)
You'd have thought this evidence would have been discussed quite a bit, and well known if it stood up to scrutiny...
Unless that's a typo and you meant no evidence?
Realised my mistake, yes I was meant to put a no
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Re: Does God Exist?No, people follow out of choice. And you've dodged my question. You obey the Law because of fear of going to prison - how is that any different? And before you say I agree with the Law, no, you don't agree with it all. No-one does.(Original post by BambieWambie)
Is there a contract for the bible or the quran? People follow the "rules" out of fear, poor guys. -
Re: The Evolution Thread
i think the word Athiesm is often misunderstood. Its not about claiming God doesn't exist it's about not believing in God, God is a concept that you can neither prove nor disprove it belongs in philosophy. It is about a disbelief in God.
I am an Atheist I disbelieve in God, However if God does exist I am open for him to come down/up and tell me himself
Realised my mistake, yes I was meant to put a no