We need to separate god from religion. All religions are demonstrably man-made; the old ones just as much as the bonkers new ones. (Why don't women invent religions?) They are various people's explanations of the (at the time) inexplicable although the more successful ones also have lots rules built in for social control - very popular amongst the religious. Of course we now have completely cogent explanations for many but not all of these mysteries, and are discovering more all time (eg Higgs' boson). Of course a god or gods could exist to explain the bits we still don't know (Dawkins' 'gap' theory) but is it really the most likely explanation for existence?
I have a strong feeling that man creating god in his own image is an act of typical human vanity; we are so special, we can't just be a result of natural physics: we must have been created for a special purpose. Personally I think the universe and all that's in it are awesome enough without being a DIY project of the big head in the sky. Humanity has a spiritual and creative nature and we are generally more inclined to good than evil but this doesn't have to be explained by magic.
...and of course the reason for the regular appearance of this thread is that gods' existence or otherwise can't be proved but (Dawkins again) the odds are highly stacked against it. I just can't see any reason why there should be a god.
Last edited by Fingersmith; 02-08-2012 at 10:11.
(Original post by garfeeled)
Saying I lack intelligence doesn't change the fact you haven't answered any of the counter arguments which shows you know your arguments are poor. The fact you try to insult me shows that you lack the intelligence to come up with a better argument.
Also you contradict yourself if god didn't give a damn about what anyone believes then there would be no consequences because of it.
If he is not affected by what we do that doesnt imply there is no consequences. That means there is a choice just like there are choices to be made everyday of your life and there are consequences. God doesnt have to be personally affected by us...if he does then imagine what state he would be in if everytime someone disbelieved or blamed or natural diseaseters on him...imagine that...why i fail to see why its so hard for you to understand the need for someone more powereful than all creation to have brought this...its a simple concept however i do believe it needs time for some...
It takes too much of time when your so certain there is no god...if i had nothing to day then fair enought i will set here and bring all the evidence there is to prove to you there is god...but i cant am afraid you have to do without me
Last edited by Ama2007; 02-08-2012 at 14:16.
What do you mean? I only pointed out that the 'Big Bang' remains a theory, but despite this I still believe it to be the best explanation. I'm not sure what you mean when you say I am being ignorant.
(Original post by L'art pour l'art)
That's one of the buzzwords of ignorance when it comes to these debates.
Edit: I'm not trying to discredit the Big Bang because it's a theory, I'm aware that a scientific theory is about as close to certainty as you can get. Sorry if I made that unclear
Last edited by Converse Rocker; 03-08-2012 at 14:42.