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Fluffy
Not sarcastic - UCAS stats are online for all to see...
Ooo, link me please
http://www.ucas.com/
About Us - http://www.ucas.com/about_us/
Statistical Services - http://www.ucas.com/about_us/stat_services/
Statistics Online - http://www.ucas.com/about_us/stat_services/stats_online/
Then take your pick.
Probably the quickest way without running queries (although it groups Medicine with Dentistry) is Data Tables: http://www.ucas.com/about_us/stat_services/stats_online/data_tables/
The HE Subject: http://www.ucas.com/about_us/stat_services/stats_online/data_tables/abushesubj/
But I guess you'll need to make some ratios to make it meaningful.
About Us - http://www.ucas.com/about_us/
Statistical Services - http://www.ucas.com/about_us/stat_services/
Statistics Online - http://www.ucas.com/about_us/stat_services/stats_online/
Then take your pick.
Probably the quickest way without running queries (although it groups Medicine with Dentistry) is Data Tables: http://www.ucas.com/about_us/stat_services/stats_online/data_tables/
The HE Subject: http://www.ucas.com/about_us/stat_services/stats_online/data_tables/abushesubj/
But I guess you'll need to make some ratios to make it meaningful.
http://www.ucas.ac.uk/about_us/media_enquiries/media_releases/
Seems things pre-2006 have now been archieved, but are bound to be on the HEFCE website
Seems things pre-2006 have now been archieved, but are bound to be on the HEFCE website
A1 - Pre-clinical Medicine
Degree 2008 (whatever this means): 8,016
Percent change: +2.2%
I presume that's what you're referring to?
Degree 2008 (whatever this means): 8,016
Percent change: +2.2%
I presume that's what you're referring to?
Ah ok - I'm not too good at making sense of this data
)...Toiletpaper8
A1 - Pre-clinical Medicine
Degree 2008 (whatever this means): 8,016
Percent change: +2.2%
I presume that's what you're referring to?
Degree 2008 (whatever this means): 8,016
Percent change: +2.2%
I presume that's what you're referring to?
Where did you get that figure from - http://www.ucas.ac.uk/website/news/media_releases/2008/2008-10-28
This suggests 0.85% overall ( non-adjusted) - and that is mostly an increase in non-home students... The % change for uk students is 0.09% (Admittedly, that 0.09% is only 13 people!!!!), but with Imperial GEP coming online and ?5 schools getting an increase in student numbers it makes it lower in real terms than 2008 entry
Fluffy
Where did you get that figure from - http://www.ucas.ac.uk/website/news/media_releases/2008/2008-10-28
This suggests 0.85% overall ( non-adjusted) - and that is mostly an increase in non-home students... The % change for uk students is 0.09% (Admittedly, that 0.09% is only 13 people!!!!), but with Imperial GEP coming online and ?5 schools getting an increase in student numbers it makes it lower in real terms than 2008 entry
This suggests 0.85% overall ( non-adjusted) - and that is mostly an increase in non-home students... The % change for uk students is 0.09% (Admittedly, that 0.09% is only 13 people!!!!), but with Imperial GEP coming online and ?5 schools getting an increase in student numbers it makes it lower in real terms than 2008 entry
Ah, I didn't know 2009 stats were up because I thought the cycle hadn't ended yet.
I got my figures from here:
http://www.ucas.ac.uk/website/news/media_releases/2008/2008-10-15
Elles
Start practising - statistics are probably the relevant mathsy parts to Medicine.
Haha, at least there's no calculus (hopefully)
Last year (2008 entry), among UK applicants there was a drop of 2.3% = -354 applicants. Over all there was a drop of 1.8% (= -347 applicants)...
http://www.ucas.ac.uk/website/news/media_releases/2007/2007-10-31-first-figures
2007 entry was down on 2006 entry to the tune of UK = -2.75% (= 439 people), and over all -2.89% (565 people)
http://www.ucas.ac.uk/website/news/media_releases/2006/2006-10-31
http://www.ucas.ac.uk/website/news/media_releases/2007/2007-10-31-first-figures
2007 entry was down on 2006 entry to the tune of UK = -2.75% (= 439 people), and over all -2.89% (565 people)
http://www.ucas.ac.uk/website/news/media_releases/2006/2006-10-31
Toiletpaper8
Haha, at least there's no calculus (hopefully)
Haha, at least there's no calculus (hopefully)
But calculus is fun
There are a lot of tables and figures...it's quite confusing
Fluffy
Not sarcastic - UCAS stats are online for all to see...
Well then I'm sorry - but it was an easy mistake to make
Medical admissions were sillier last year... I got four pre-interview rejections, applied again with the same reference, same UKCAT score, same AS grades repeated at A2 (AAAB) but a different personal statement and so far I have got 3 out of 4 interviews.
Weird.
Weird.
I agree with DrDrvas, appears to be slightly flawed, the admissions process. But i say only slightly. Here are my conclusions. The UKCAT has become an essensial component in the medical admissions process, some universities, having a weigtning more than others, on this exam. Some universities, seem to like the idea, of basing there choices for candidates, solely, on the UKCAT score achieved by candidates. In my opinion, nonsense!!!. The UKCAT, in my opinion, is not the most reliable indicater, to identify, a potential doctor. Many things UKCAT does not test for is enthusiasm, anticipation, dedication, devotion. Its tests, for logical reasoning, while in fact does become an important factor, i dont think it should be the determining factor.
My opinion is some great candidates, get left behind, while some candidates, who dont want to be there(more for the pretisge) slip though the net. There may not be much difference from pervious years, but my fear is, universities are starting to rely more on UKCAT and BMAT than actual, personal qualities, which could see a change in how our NHS works as a whole in the future.
My opinion is some great candidates, get left behind, while some candidates, who dont want to be there(more for the pretisge) slip though the net. There may not be much difference from pervious years, but my fear is, universities are starting to rely more on UKCAT and BMAT than actual, personal qualities, which could see a change in how our NHS works as a whole in the future.
cchilstonev1
Medical admissions were sillier last year... I got four pre-interview rejections, applied again with the same reference, same UKCAT score, same AS grades repeated at A2 (AAAB) but a different personal statement and so far I have got 3 out of 4 interviews.
Weird.
Weird.
A lot of people find it very different when they reapply with their A level grades achieved. Four of my friends at Manchester got 4 rejections without interview and then reapplied for 2007 and got in - two of them got 4 offers.
I know manchester gives a higher academic score to those who have already achieved their A level grades over those that have predictions. It's probably similar at other schools.
Isometrix
i don't really have a problem with medschool admissions. but sometimes it's just annoying to see people getting interviews purely down to a guessing game.
The UKCAT isnt all guessing. There is that final section the Unis dont see that inst guessing
logic123
My opinion is some great candidates, get left behind, while some candidates, who dont want to be there(more for the pretisge) slip though the net. There may not be much difference from pervious years, but my fear is, universities are starting to rely more on UKCAT and BMAT than actual, personal qualities, which could see a change in how our NHS works as a whole in the future.
So, you suggest they interview a thousand more applicants?
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