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Reply 1
Sanzhar
Hello, everyone

Just got an offer from Warwick (Quite content about that:smile:), but now I have a difficuilt decision to make: what to choose between French and International Studies - Warwick or French Spanish with Managment - St. Adnrew's. (Provided I get AAA I'll switch to French Spanish and IR at St. Andrew's).

So which uni do you think I should choose?

Thanks for your help :smile:


It all depends on what place you prefer, which one is the furthest away from home, what you can do here or you can't, which course do you prefer and all. List all the pro-cons to help you, but whatever people say, it should be your decision, both unis are excellent and I'm sure you'd have a great time at both :smile:
Reply 2
Anatheme
It all depends on what place you prefer, which one is the furthest away from home, what you can do here or you can't, which course do you prefer and all. List all the pro-cons to help you, but whatever people say, it should be your decision, both unis are excellent and I'm sure you'd have a great time at both :smile:


The pro-cons cancel each other out, as in the two unis are the same for me, appart from the fact one is a bit higher in the rankings than the other:s-smilie:
Thank you for your reply, btw :smile:
Reply 3
Sanzhar
The pro-cons cancel each other out, as in the two unis are the same for me, appart from the fact one is a bit higher in the rankings than the other:s-smilie:
Thank you for your reply, btw :smile:


There is probably one you slightly prefer to the other, yes? Then go for this one. I'd personally go for St Andrews because I feel like they have better language facilities, but the course is a bit weird at Scottish unis and I'd rather go for a degree a bit lighter because you'll need lots of committment to stick to three subjects. However it really looks nice whereas I found Warwick a bit depressing from what I saw of it :p:
Reply 4
The course in St. Andrew's sounds nicer, and it's MA (though there's a difference between the one that you actually study for), however Warwick is a bit more recognized worldwide, from what I know anyway. :smile:
Reply 5
Sanzhar
The course in St. Andrew's sounds nicer, and it's MA (though there's a difference between the one that you actually study for), however Warwick is a bit more recognized worldwide, from what I know anyway. :smile:


Haha, I know, I started to put here common mistakes I found on TSR, it confuses me sooo much sometimes when I read posts :s-smilie:. When I arrived on TSR I was genuinely stuck on some post until I'd actually discover that they made a mistake. But like you sort of translate from English to your mother tongue (French for me) and you're just like "eh, wth does that mean :lolwut:", haha.

EDIT: Don't forget that the Prince William went to St Andrews and lots of people know the uni thanks to him :p:
Reply 6
Anatheme
Haha, I know, I started to put here common mistakes I found on TSR, it confuses me sooo much sometimes when I read posts :s-smilie:. When I arrived on TSR I was genuinely stuck on some post until I'd actually discover that they made a mistake. But like you sort of translate from English to your mother tongue (French for me) and you're just like "eh, wth does that mean :lolwut:", haha.

EDIT: Don't forget that the Prince William went to St Andrews and lots of people know the uni thanks to him :p:



Haha, now imagine me translating from French to English (4th language is being learnt through English) then into French, then into Russian and finally into Kazakh :eek: takes a long time to do the process the other way round, so everyone who is French would think that I'm a bit stupid:biggrin: :biggrin:

Good point about Prince William by the way :smile:
Reply 7
Sanzhar
Haha, now imagine me translating from French to English (4th language is being learnt through English) then into French, then into Russian and finally into Kazakh :eek: takes a long time to do the process the other way round, so everyone who is French would think that I'm a bit stupid:biggrin: :biggrin:

Good point about Prince William by the way :smile:


Mmmh, I do translate a lot in all the languages I learnt, haha. One of my reccurent problem is starting to talk/write in Russian when I'm actually supposed to talk/write in French, Arabic or English. I used to do that a lot when I was learning Italian too, it seems like Russian has a very very strong influence on me, haha. But well, I suppose all the linguists have this problem so it's fine :p:
Reply 8
Any advice, anyone?
Well I'm doing French at Warwick, so if you have any specific questions about the course, feel free to ask! :smile: I get the impression you're leaning towards St Andrew's though.I wouldn't worry about their reputations because as far I know they're probably about equal really. As other people have said, visit them both to get a feel for them. Both are great unis and I'm sure you'll have fun wherever you go :smile:
Reply 10
musical_moose
Well I'm doing French at Warwick, so if you have any specific questions about the course, feel free to ask! :smile: I get the impression you're leaning towards St Andrew's though.I wouldn't worry about their reputations because as far I know they're probably about equal really. As other people have said, visit them both to get a feel for them. Both are great unis and I'm sure you'll have fun wherever you go :smile:


Thanks for that! :smile: The first question would be about the year abroad, how are you finding it? And the French department, how good is it?
Sanzhar
Thanks for that! :smile: The first question would be about the year abroad, how are you finding it? And the French department, how good is it?



I'm loving the year abroad so far! It's such a relief seeing as I'd been a bit nervous about it leading up to this year. I chose to go for the Erasmus option because I really didn't think teaching was for me. We had the choice of going to uni in Grenoble, Bordeaux, the Sorbonne, Nanterre, Caen, Dijon and Martinique, and despite being very tempted by Martinique in the end I opted for Grenoble, which I'm really pleased about! At Warwick the year abroad doesn't count at all for your degree, so you can concentrate on making the most of the year and meeting lots of French people rather than stressing over exams! Although some of the courses at uni have been a bit boring others, like translation, have been really good and will be very useful for next year. Plus you really don't have to do very much to get the credits you're supposed to try and get. Next term I'll only have 2 days a week at uni, so I'm going to do some volunteering and maybe try and get some work experience (although that probably won't be easy!)

Anyway yes, so it's all going well and the French students have been much more friendly than I'd thought they would be! Our tutors at Warwick have kept in touch to make sure we're getting on ok! The main problem for me with the year abroad is financial given the crappy state of the pound at the mo, but hopefully that will be sorted out by the time you go! :smile:

I have found Warwick's French dept really good. It was recently rated joint 2nd in the UK for research, and on the whole I have been very impressed with the teaching. The module options tend to be quite literature-based, so if you really hate literature I would probably advise going to St Andrews instead. However a new lecturer who specialises in history and politics has joined in the last year, so we now have a pretty good selection - especially for the final year- including modules in French literature, politics, film, media and history.

I'm afraid I have no idea about what International Studies is like, but I hope I have been of some help! :smile:
Reply 12
musical_moose
I'm loving the year abroad so far! It's such a relief seeing as I'd been a bit nervous about it leading up to this year. I chose to go for the Erasmus option because I really didn't think teaching was for me. We had the choice of going to uni in Grenoble, Bordeaux, the Sorbonne, Nanterre, Caen, Dijon and Martinique, and despite being very tempted by Martinique in the end I opted for Grenoble, which I'm really pleased about! At Warwick the year abroad doesn't count at all for your degree, so you can concentrate on making the most of the year and meeting lots of French people rather than stressing over exams! Although some of the courses at uni have been a bit boring others, like translation, have been really good and will be very useful for next year. Plus you really don't have to do very much to get the credits you're supposed to try and get. Next term I'll only have 2 days a week at uni, so I'm going to do some volunteering and maybe try and get some work experience (although that probably won't be easy!)

Anyway yes, so it's all going well and the French students have been much more friendly than I'd thought they would be! Our tutors at Warwick have kept in touch to make sure we're getting on ok! The main problem for me with the year abroad is financial given the crappy state of the pound at the mo, but hopefully that will be sorted out by the time you go! :smile:

I have found Warwick's French dept really good. It was recently rated joint 2nd in the UK for research, and on the whole I have been very impressed with the teaching. The module options tend to be quite literature-based, so if you really hate literature I would probably advise going to St Andrews instead. However a new lecturer who specialises in history and politics has joined in the last year, so we now have a pretty good selection - especially for the final year- including modules in French literature, politics, film, media and history.

I'm afraid I have no idea about what International Studies is like, but I hope I have been of some help! :smile:



Wow, thank you so much! That's really really helpful! The modules for French seem awesome and the year abroad is quite exciting! What about the language lab, are they any good? (I really want to learn Spanish!:smile:)
Sanzhar
Wow, thank you so much! That's really really helpful! The modules for French seem awesome and the year abroad is quite exciting! What about the language lab, are they any good? (I really want to learn Spanish!:smile:)



I haven't actually used the language lab as much as I should have to be honest but it is really good - lots of tvs with a good choice of foreign channels, computers, books, cds.... Pretty much like any other uni language lab to be honest. But yeah there's quite a lot of equipment in there so usually it isn't a problem getting a seat! I think it would be pretty easy to teach yourself Spanish in there, otherwise you can take a course in the language centre of 2 hours teaching per week, but that costs £180 for the year if it's not actually being taken as part of your degree!

Oh yeah, I forgot they opened a new 'Transnational Resources Centre' (TRC) last year just for linguists, which has an impressive dvd library (with over 2500 films, CDs and satellite recordings) in different languages which you can rent to take home or watch in the cinema room.

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