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1 Oxford 6.2 13 2671 522 98.6 89.4 78.6 1000
2 Cambridge 6.5 12.2 2097 530 97.9 84.5 87.9 995
3 Imperial College 3.9 5.8 9.7 2828 453 96 72.4 86 960
4 London School of Economics 3.9 6.3 13.2 1416 471 96.9 74.6 83 915
5 St Andrews 4.1 5.3 15.4 1009 458 94.8 79.7 72.6 841
6 University College London 3.9 5.5 9.4 1623 429 94.3 72.5 79.8 832
7 Warwick 5.6 17.1 1724 453 96.7 79.3 73 813
8 Bristol 3.9 5.2 14.9 1426 440 95.8 81.3 76 811
9 Durham 4 5.2 20.3 1250 452 96.4 75.4 75.8 810
10 King's College London 4 4.7 12.4 1546 399 93.2 67.2 79.8 777
11 Bath 3.8 5.2 16.7 1235 443 95.3 76.8 78.9 764
12 Loughborough 4.1 4.3 17.6 1217 368 94 63.8 69.7 755
13 Edinburgh 3.8 5.0 14.5 1254 458 92.2 77.8 76.4 742
14 Southampton 4 5.4 16.7 1323 402 90.7 71.3 67.8 738
15 Aston 3.9 3.9 14.6 1701 346 88.4 64.3 76.9 734
16 York 3.9 5.5 15 1144 436 95.2 71 64.3 733
17 Exeter 4 4.7 16.8 1016 387 94.8 74.6 65.6 726
18 School of Oriental and African Studies 3.8 5.3 9.5 1603 365 84.4 69.2 73.3 722
19 Nottingham 3.8 5.0 15.6 1368 431 96.2 74.5 70.7 721
20 East Anglia 4.1 5.0 17 1104 364 91.2 65.4 59.2 709
21 Leicester 4.1 4.5 16.2 1149 371 92.9 62.5 64.6 705
22 Sheffield 3.9 4.5 15.1 1085 408 92.4 73.3 70.3 699
23 Newcastle 3.9 4.4 16.7 1402 390 92.3 67.6 72.9 694
24 Royal Holloway 3.9 5.2 13.9 1093 356 88.2 71.3 61.9 688
25 Reading 4 4.9 16.8 914 358 91.7 69.1 64.5 683
26 Birmingham 3.9 4.3 16.6 1200 389 92.4 69.6 70.2 678
27 Lancaster 3.9 5.4 15.8 1074 366 92.5 64.2 61 670
28 Cardiff 3.9 4.5 13.9 1136 377 90.1 66.3 70.1 658
29 Manchester 3.8 5.1 14.6 1323 406 92.3 68.8 65.6 656
30 Leeds 3.9 4.5 18.4 972 387 92.1 71.2 68 653
31 Glasgow 3.9 4.3 13.9 1130 425 85.5 64.8 68 650
32 Aberdeen 4.0 13.9 1174 447 78.8 64.3 75.8 648
33 Queen's Belfast 3.9 4.3 17.2 1164 363 86.6 69.1 73.2 626
34 Liverpool 3.9 4.6 15.5 916 370 90 64.8 70.8 625
35 Sussex 3.7 5.1 13.6 1136 382 88.3 70.3 61.6 621
36 Essex 3.9 4.8 14.7 1111 316 83.4 56.8 63.2 611
37 Stirling 3.9 14.5 1027 334 89.9 62 66.9 609
38 Kent 3.9 4.0 16.4 1093 324 87 60.5 65.1 608
39 Aberystwyth 4.1 4.0 19.2 976 299 89.8 61.1 56.1 607
40 Surrey 3.7 4.7 15.9 1089 341 86.8 61.6 79.1 603
=40 City 3.9 3.7 18.7 748 318 85 63.9 80.6 603
42 Queen Mary, London 3.8 4.7 12.8 1088 342 88.5 61.6 72.6 599
=42 Hull 4 3.2 19 761 294 83.9 57.3 71.1 599
44 Strathclyde 3.6 18.3 998 429 81.8 67.9 71.2 598
45 Heriot-Watt 4.2 16.8 1056 375 82.3 57.9 61 551
46 Swansea 3.9 4.4 16.9 979 289 88.3 54.1 60.1 531
47 Bangor 4 3.9 16.9 1042 290 77 50 65.8 530
48 Bradford 3.9 3.4 18.6 1105 265 82.2 54.2 75.8 519
49 Oxford Brookes 3.9 1.6 17 908 295 84.9 56.6 72.1 512
50 Dundee 4.2 17.6 939 382 68.7 58.6 74.6 502
51 Brunel 3.7 3.1 16.7 1188 302 85.4 63.7 63.3 496
52 Goldsmiths, London 3.8 4.9 20.2 758 297 82.2 58.9 58.4 486
53 Ulster 3.9 2.4 19.2 1345 279 77 61.8 59.2 485
54 Keele 3.8 4.0 18.1 693 314 84.3 56 64.1 484
55 Robert Gordon 0.9 18.5 927 311 79.8 53.4 81.8 480
56 Nottingham Trent 3.7 1.4 19.1 810 283 89.1 53.3 77.1 456
57 Lampeter 4 4.4 26.2 554 258 76.9 60.5 67.7 453
58 Queen Margaret Edinburgh 1.5 21.3 710 333 77.7 60.3 75.2 447
59 University of the Arts, London 3.5 4.4 18.7 873 391 87.1 57.9 51.3 442
60 Plymouth 3.9 1.6 17.5 1017 275 81.2 55.9 55.5 437
61 Brighton 3.8 1.7 18.1 805 280 83 55.3 64.2 425
62 Glasgow Caledonian 1.2 18.1 767 354 74.8 60 61.6 419
=62 Bournemouth 3.7 0.7 18.5 851 278 85.2 59.8 63.7 419
64 Staffordshire 3.9 1.1 18.1 943 241 79.8 52.2 53.3 399
65 Glamorgan 3.9 1.3 16.3 1063 273 69.3 52.1 53.4 397
66 UCE Birmingham 3.8 0.8 16.2 1024 252 77.3 57.7 62.5 396
67 Napier 0.8 17.8 960 292 73.3 57.4 61.8 393
68 Chichester 3.9 1.7 21 652 242 88 45.1 59.2 391
69 Winchester 3.9 1.5 20.6 746 265 84.5 54.7 49.4 385
70 Central Lancashire 3.8 0.9 17.4 928 246 76.9 48.1 66.3 383
71 Roehampton 3.8 1.9 20.3 1257 237 79.5 52.7 55.6 382
72 West of England 3.8 1.6 19.8 867 266 80.6 56.7 59.8 380
73 Northumbria 3.8 1.1 21.9 1031 291 80.7 52.4 59.3 375
74 Gloucestershire 3.8 1.7 20.2 1000 242 80.5 51.3 53.7 371
75 UWIC, Cardiff 3.8 0.8 20.7 1077 248 85.1 48.4 54.5 366
=75 Coventry 3.9 1.0 20.6 929 239 73.7 56 61.1 366
=75 Canterbury Christ Church 3.9 1.1 20.4 583 252 83.5 45.8 62.4 366
78 Newport 3.9 0.5 19.1 826 228 74.9 56.5 56.7 365
79 Portsmouth 3.8 1.7 19 758 256 81.4 48 59.3 363
80 Kingston 3.8 1.2 18.3 882 228 78.6 49.2 64 362
81 Sunderland 3.8 1.7 16.7 710 238 77 50.4 56.1 360
82 Northampton 3.9 1.0 19.4 692 221 80 56.8 55.4 359
83 Salford 3.7 2.1 16.7 857 269 73.2 53.5 59.7 356
84 Bedfordshire 0.6 23.4 1808 207 75.4 41.1 59.6 348
85 Liverpool John Moores 3.8 1.2 18.5 840 252 77.1 48.4 57.1 335
=85 Hertfordshire 3.8 1.4 18.5 860 235 75.9 45.1 61.9 335
87 Sheffield Hallam 3.7 1.1 23.8 911 270 85 55.4 61.2 332
88 Bath Spa 3.7 1.5 24.4 502 264 85.7 67.7 54.8 328
89 Worcester 3.8 0.8 20.2 828 221 80.8 45.4 63.1 323
90 Manchester Metropolitan 3.8 1.2 18.9 822 261 75.2 47.8 53.7 319
91 Westminster 3.7 1.2 17.5 739 229 80.5 56.4 53.5 318
92 Huddersfield 3.9 0.9 20.6 610 244 78.9 46 55.5 317
93 Bolton 3.9 0.8 17.7 785 179 63.3 51.7 64.7 316
94 Paisley 0.7 20 1085 313 68.7 43.8 55.5 311
95 Teesside 3.9 0.7 20.7 705 236 74.4 44.6 63 310
96 Leeds Metropolitan 3.7 0.8 23.2 928 263 82.7 49 59.5 305
97 De Montfort 3.7 1.4 21.5 753 246 80.6 47.7 63.8 303
98 Derby 3.8 0.9 22.4 978 215 77 49.8 57.1 298
99 East London 1.4 22.3 1298 190 68.5 40 58 284
100 Chester 3.8 0.5 17.8 672 253 76.1 46.1 48.4 280
=100 Abertay 0.7 19.8 1478 214 64 47.2 51.9 280
102 York St John 3.7 0.4 25.6 780 266 85.4 49.9 61.7 276
103 London South Bank 1.3 23.1 800 191 72 51.7 61.9 270
104 Anglia Ruskin 3.8 0.5 19.9 615 242 64.8 52.7 61.5 262
105 Southampton Solent 3.7 0.5 21.6 940 224 78.2 43.9 48.8 247
106 Edge Hill 3.9 0.4 22.8 248 243 78.3 38.1 55.7 242
107 Cumbria 3.6 0.6 22.8 626 257 76.6 46.5 70.7 229
108 Middlesex 3.7 1.3 29.6 1576 189 71.9 46.5 55.7 219
109 Lincoln 3.6 0.7 26.3 793 255 83.9 52.3 48.9 214
=109 Greenwich 3.7 1.2 24 791 210 79.7 42.3 57.3 214
111 Thames Valley 3.6 0.4 19.4 586 202 69.5 48.7 61.9 209
112 Wolverhampton 3.7 0.6 21.2 917 204 73.9 43.5 52.6 207
113 Liverpool Hope 3.7 0.7 24.3 833 220 73.6 47 52.6 191


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I am quite surprised the University of East Londons graduate prospects are better than ALOT of other Uni's ,yet people say it's the worst Uni?

[OhNO!]

graduate prospects for what, exactly? for employment? does that include people going onto further education? does it take into account low-entry level jobs which offer good promotion possibilities? (for example, is a university whose graduate becomes a store manager at Aldi going to have better 'grad prospects' than a university whose graduate gets an internship at the financial times?), for that matter, what's a graduate-level job at all?

I've never understood that category.

[Frodz]

There are percentage-wise more "graduate jobs" in London than elsewhere.

The "graduate prospects" score merely reflects the economy of where a university is.

[russiaismyvogue]

grauduate prospects as in the ranking the university has with employers .

[BillLionheart]

Originally Posted by russiaismyvogue

grauduate prospects as in the ranking the university has with employers .

In most league tables including this one the "graduate prospects" are derived from the Destination of Leavers in Higher Education (DLHE) survey. This is a survey carried out by the universities, with as standard script, to see if the graduates have a "graduate job" six months after graduating.

Yes it certainly makes a difference where you are in the country as many graduates want to stay near where they studied. Two problems with the survey are the interpretation of what is a "graduate job" which is a bit subjective, and six months is a bit early. Some people only start to look for a job quite late and others want to go traveling before starting a career. In any case you can expect universities with more vocational courses to do better in this survey -- students on vocational courses have already decided what job they want where as student studying eg English or Maths have often deliberately kept their options open.

[Matt_C]

Originally Posted by OhNO!

for example, is a university whose graduate becomes a store manager at Aldi going to have better 'grad prospects' than a university whose graduate gets an internship at the financial times?

Working at Aldi may not seem like the most glamorous career choice but have a look at what The Times said about their graduate scheme (http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...le4768335.ece).

Having applied for many many graduate jobs in the last few weeks it is still something of a mystery as to what you do in one. Mainly it's a company taking you on, bypassing the lower end of the pay scale and putting you into management. They attract the best graduates by promising them lots of responsibility and of course lots of money early on as well as great chances for progression up the ladder.

[+epic]

you pasted the whole page OP....why not just the table

[Broadsword]

Thats table is nothing to do with graduate prospects, youve just pasted the overall ranking from the Times which is at least 3 years old. Try Again

For a real indicator just look at the times High Fliers survey ranking, thats the real indicator of graduate prospects

[OhNO!]

Originally Posted by Matt_C

Working at Aldi may not seem like the most glamorous career choice but have a look at what The Times said about their graduate scheme (http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...le4768335.ece).

Having applied for many many graduate jobs in the last few weeks it is still something of a mystery as to what you do in one. Mainly it's a company taking you on, bypassing the lower end of the pay scale and putting you into management. They attract the best graduates by promising them lots of responsibility and of course lots of money early on as well as great chances for progression up the ladder.

I know Aldi has a really good graduate package, it's certainly nothing to sniff at - but I was just making the point that "graduate prospects" might overlook graduates who are starting on the ladder to what could be a really great career (intern on the financial times programme, for example!).

[Matt_C]

Originally Posted by OhNO!

I know Aldi has a really good graduate package, it's certainly nothing to sniff at - but I was just making the point that "graduate prospects" might overlook graduates who are starting on the ladder to what could be a really great career (intern on the financial times programme, for example!).

The figures which universities publish to show how many of their students went on to graduate employment takes only one thing into account - do the graduates have jobs? It doesn't make any difference what they get and since most graduates need a job to live they will do anything in the hope that something good will turn up. In short, the figures don't mean anything although some universities are more heavily targeted by certain firms who believe that they produce the type of person they want.

[OhNO!]

Originally Posted by Matt_C

The figures which universities publish to show how many of their students went on to graduate employment takes only one thing into account - do the graduates have jobs? It doesn't make any difference what they get and since most graduates need a job to live they will do anything in the hope that something good will turn up. In short, the figures don't mean anything although some universities are more heavily targeted by certain firms who believe that they produce the type of person they want.

so, if a 100% of graduates from Manchester Uni one year get jobs working at the checkout in tescos, whereas 90% of graduates from Man Met the same year got jobs as partners in magic circle law firms - UoM would have the better "graduate prospects" score?

I'm not trying to be fatuous, I'm genuinely wondering.

[Matt_C]

Originally Posted by OhNO!

so, if a 100% of graduates from Manchester Uni one year get jobs working at the checkout in tescos, whereas 90% of graduates from Man Met the same year got jobs as partners in magic circle law firms - UoM would have the better "graduate prospects" score?

I'm not trying to be fatuous, I'm genuinely wondering.

That's the way that UoM would spin it and I guess they are entitled to.

[OhNO!]

Originally Posted by Matt_C

That's the way that UoM would spin it and I guess they are entitled to.

I didn't mean UoM, I meant the league tables.

[BillLionheart]

Originally Posted by OhNO!

so, if a 100% of graduates from Manchester Uni one year get jobs working at the checkout in tescos, whereas 90% of graduates from Man Met the same year got jobs as partners in magic circle law firms - UoM would have the better "graduate prospects" score?

I'm not trying to be fatuous, I'm genuinely wondering.

No. Because in the DLHE survey they try to ascertain if it is a "graduate job", and in your example a checkout job in Tesco would not be counted as such. There is of course a gray area, and as you pointed out before there are some careers where starting at a sub graduate job is a good strategy to get on the ladder.

[turquoise-duck]

Originally Posted by Matt_C

The figures which universities publish to show how many of their students went on to graduate employment takes only one thing into account - do the graduates have jobs? It doesn't make any difference what they get and since most graduates need a job to live they will do anything in the hope that something good will turn up. In short, the figures don't mean anything although some universities are more heavily targeted by certain firms who believe that they produce the type of person they want.

hi, i know you said the figures dont mean anything, but what about for comparing subjects- like for anthropology, only about 5 universities have a graduate prospects score of above 50%. i'm guessing this means if i do this subject getting a job will be really hard?

[Matt_C]

Originally Posted by turquoise-duck

hi, i know you said the figures dont mean anything, but what about for comparing subjects- like for anthropology, only about 5 universities have a graduate prospects score of above 50%. i'm guessing this means if i do this subject getting a job will be really hard?

It could mean that it would be really hard to get a job or it may mean that those who do such a specialized subject might be more picky about the jobs that they take. I've just graduated and I have accepted a job but it's not exactly what I want to do. I'm just making do with what I can get.

Have you got a preferred career in mind if you were to do anthropology or are you looking to do the degree to increase your skill set and make yourself more employable?