Bullfighter, 11, 'breaks record'

I have no problem with it at all as long as the bull is eaten afterwards. The animal should not be wasted. A matador can kill an animal instantly, in a way that is less likely to cause distress and pain than your standard bolt gun.

Isn't the whole point of bull fighting to distress them? It wouldn't be much of a spectacle if they idled around the arena mooing calmly until someone popped them with a spear.

Also, I can't see how the bullfighting method is in any way quicker than the slaughterhouse process.

But they do not kill it quickly, that's one of the worst parts.



Taken from wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bull_fighting#Spanish-style_bullfighting

Isn't the whole point of bull fighting to distress them? It wouldn't be much of a spectacle if they idled around the arena mooing calmly until someone popped them with a spear.

Also, I can't see how the bullfighting method is in any way quicker than the slaughterhouse process.

OMG, hes so small, i hope he doesnt get trampled on by a bull...

Yay wikipedia as a source, the sign of somebody who has no idea what they are talking about. the spainish form of bullfighting is very traditionalist one, and isnt that common as wikipedia would suggest. And tbh methods used are to induce bloodloss this reduces the pain the animal will feel, and makes it weak and lethargic and less dangerous.

Yay Wikipedia as a source, the sign of somebody who has no idea what they are talking about. the spainish form of bullfighting is very traditionalist one, and isnt that common as wikipedia would suggest. And tbh methods used are to induce bloodloss this reduces the pain the animal will feel, and makes it weak and lethargic and less dangerous.

Well do you realise it is hard to find sources that are not biased against bull fights because it's a stupid, stupid tradition and is generally involving sadists that are legally allowed to torture animals. I have and always will hate the "sport" and just how cowardly the people who participate in it are.

The fact you say a Matador kills bulls with less pain than a slaughterhouse would shows you know absolutely nothing about the whole process.

Do you honestly think being stabbed repeatedly allowing large amounts of blood loss is painless? Please tell m when you say it is to help with the pain you are either A) High B) Drunk C) Unbelievably ignorant.

I know it is not nationally common, around 70% of the Spanish are not interested with it, it’s not like I am totally clueless to this subject solely because you say so - someone who thinks it is a cruel less event.

Yet again I will say to another, you have never been in a slaughterhouse, or ever had to kill animals before have you?

Look up bloodloss in bulls and see what you get, you can bleed very large amounts of blood from bulls and in some cultures this is quite common (African tribes,) and it is widely known, that this is actually quite painless, halal is also an example of this, making a bull angry by just hurting it often ends with a dead matador

I like the way everyone casually ignored my statement about a slaughter house. Have you ever been in one? they are far more horrible than an arena. I can guarantee that the ones in Argentina and places like that are far far worse than the one I have been to in Britain, guess where most meat comes from?Bulls often fight eachother in nature, it is in their instinct. being sent to a slaughter house is not. I think before mouthing off about things, that you know what you are talking about first.


A little metaphor which situation would you rather be in? sent of to a death camp. Or given the chance to fight (and in many cases live afterwords).

I personally am against bullfighting but I wont condemn it, I think the undue agner towards it is wrong and quite frankly idiotic, it is based on misconceptions and a lack of understanding. It is the wrong demon to go after, there are far worse things happening to animals that are commonly acceptable.

Firstly, yes I have been in a slaughterhouse but no I have not killed animals. But that has absolutely nothing to do with bullfighting. I am still confused how you are trying to argue that it is not anymore painful for a bull to be slowly stabbed and bled to death (if it is lucky) than a bolt through the brain. Are you seriously trying to say they are anywhere near each other in terms of pain and suffering?

Killing for food is in a completely different league than killing for entertainment. There is nothing that you can say to try and compare the two and make it seem logical. You say bulls fighting each other is natural and a slaughterhouse is not - yes that’s true. But are you ignoring the fact that an Arena is no more natural than a slaughterhouse to try and back yourself up? Thousands of people cheering and shouting at the bull while a group of people torment the bull, stabbing it and usually killing it – this is just as, if not more unnatural than a slaughterhouse. The two places cannot be compared due to their purpose. Please don't tell me to shut up just because you appear to have worked in a slaughterhouse.

Next to no bulls survive the "sport" once they have been chosen - your ignorance is outstanding when you suggest many bulls survive. If the bull is ever granted an indulto (rarely when the crowd thinks it put up a good fight) they usually die while waiting to be taken back to their ranch. Even if they survived they will never be the same both physically and mentally as you know.

You seem to think people just hate bullfighting because of the sadists who gain pleasure from slowly torturing bulls for fun in front of thousands people? Well that's because it is true, people are not being ignorant because what you see in the media is usually pretty close to the truth.

Yes worse things are happening to animals in the world - but not in the public domain and media - it is one of the last traditions that needs changing in the civilized world.

Well you have proven my point about not knowing what you are talking about, Bulls are often spared, it is called indulto. Bulls are not killed in the rescortes, Course landaise and Course libre styles. In the portuguese form the bull is not killed in the ring but by a butcher after the match.
The OP mentioned the fact that the boy was controversial for actually killing the bulls. There are bloodless versions allowed in many countries.

You need to wake up and see that turning the slaughter of animals into a mass industry that is not only damaging to the enviroment, but is slowly killing our nation is far worse than people risking their lives to kill an animal.

He is going to go to hell for killing my GOD.

I already mentioned Indulto and how it is a rarity. And this does not mean they survive - most die from their wounds after. And yes it is dependant on the style of how the rules are followed and what happens to the bull. But as he killed 6 bulls its pretty obvious we are not talking about types that do not involve the killing

There has always been and will always be a mass industry for meat, campaigns can be used to try and make this more humane and it certainly has become more noticeable in recent times but as long as the industry continues to expand its not going to keep up.

Still, they are just too different to compare bullfighting to producing and eating meat. Bullfighting that involves the cruelty to the bulls shouldn’t happen - in my opinion.

and you were mocking pakistanis earlier.

And most of these animals dont even have a nice life like the bulls used in fighting. Born in a shed, raised in a shed, fed on the bones of other animals and cows then slaughtered.