B126 - Hospital Car Parking Bill 2009
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Re: B126 - Hospital Car Parking Bill 2009As far as I know, all Hospitals/Trusts allow their staff free parking in the vicinity of the Hospital area (It's usually a separate lot with a card or some code required to open a barrier). This will obviously stay the same so their is no need for its inclusion in the Bill.(Original post by Indievertigo)
How many PFI car parks are there, and how much will it cost to terminate their current deals? Are staff currently exempt from these charges? If not, they should be included in this bill.Last edited by Kyalimers; 05-02-2009 at 00:52. -
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Re: B126 - Hospital Car Parking Bill 2009(Original post by davireland)
Where does the revenue collected from car parking go at the moment?The revenue at the moment is simply taken by the Hospital/Trust itself thus it can use it for profits or however it wants:(Original post by tommm)
Sounds like quite a good common-sense bill, provided the financial implications aren't too big. Do you have any figures regarding hospital carpark revenue or its expenditure currently?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4850562.stm
It works out at around £62 325 454 million, which is 0.5% of the total healthcare budget. -
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Re: B126 - Hospital Car Parking Bill 2009Many thanks to sohanshah for his response regarding staff parking.
The above question is I think, the deciding factor for me in this bill.How many PFI car parks are there, and how much will it cost to terminate their current deals?
Another question which springs to mind is that of usage - how will hospital car parks located in or close to city centres be protected from the general public using them? I.E those that are not patients/visitors/staff? -
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Re: B126 - Hospital Car Parking Bill 2009Yeah... but it does mean that this bill doesn't effect us(Original post by Indievertigo)
This house doesn't recognise the devolved Scottish Government
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That change blows, the :p: smiley is now the :tongue: smiley.
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Re: B126 - Hospital Car Parking Bill 2009Indeed. Perhaps then, for fairness, an increase in money given to the NHS in Scotland, proportional to the costs of this bill being applied in England...(Original post by SillyFencer)
Yeah... but it does mean that this bill doesn't effect us
Nah, but I'm not sure if the house recognises acts by the Scottish Government at all, I think for easiness they might be ignored. Tis a murky subject. -
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Re: B126 - Hospital Car Parking Bill 2009Well we shouldn't go on paying for it out of the Scottish budget if this was past, surely?(Original post by Indievertigo)
Indeed. Perhaps then, for fairness, an increase in money given to the NHS in Scotland, proportional to the costs of this bill being applied in England...
Nah, but I'm not sure if the house recognises acts by the Scottish Government at all, I think for easiness they might be ignored. Tis a murky subject. -
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Re: B126 - Hospital Car Parking Bill 2009The question is, is there a Scottish budget/government/acts to be considered at all in this HoC? Word from the speaker has been to ignore it.(Original post by SillyFencer)
Well we shouldn't go on paying for it out of the Scottish budget if this was past, surely?
In the real life HoC, they wouldn't be able to pass this act (I think?) as the authority over such matters has been passed to the Scottish Government. So 4(3) would have to be changed. -
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Re: B126 - Hospital Car Parking Bill 2009I think this is correct.(Original post by Indievertigo)
The question is, is there a Scottish budget/government/acts to be considered at all in this HoC? Word from the speaker has been to ignore it.
In the real life HoC, they wouldn't be able to pass this act (I think?) as the authority over such matters has been passed to the Scottish Government. So 4(3) would have to be changed. -
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Re: B126 - Hospital Car Parking Bill 2009No deals will be terminated as a result of this Act.(Original post by Indievertigo)
How many PFI car parks are there, and how much will it cost to terminate their current deals?
The Act only exempts patients and their visitors (and staff already) from hospital car parking charges. This means the car parks will not become overcrowded with shoppers wanting free car parking.
The patient's PCT will pay the hospital for the car parking of the patient and his/her visitors; therefore, no termination of contract will occur.(2) The Primary Care Trust shall pay the provider for the parking services provided to the patient in addition to the provider's care services already purchased by the Primary Care Trust. -
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Re: B126 - Hospital Car Parking Bill 2009(Original post by ojwk)
No deals will be terminated as a result of this Act.
The Act only exempts patients and their visitors (and staff already) from hospital car parking charges. This means the car parks will not become overcrowded with shoppers wanting free car parking.
The patient's PCT will pay the hospital for the car parking of the patient and his/her visitors; therefore, no termination of contract will occur.
I'm not buying that, in Scotland the PFI car parks had to have their current contracts terminated - at significant cost, before all charges were abolished.
Even if that weren't the case, then there is no mechanism to stop the PFI car park operators ripping off the NHS.
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Re: B126 - Hospital Car Parking Bill 2009This house pretends that devolution never happened
which is not neccesarily a bad thingand so we dont legislate for individual parts of the British isles.
Much as I support the moral principles behind this bill, I have to question the deficit to the individual PCT's due to this bill even if it is 0.5% of national NHS income. If you are going to take that away where is the money going to come from to make it up? an increase in NI contributions perhaps? -
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Re: B126 - Hospital Car Parking Bill 2009Why NI?(Original post by davireland)
This house pretends that devolution never happenedwhich is not neccesarily a bad thingand so we dont legislate for individual parts of the British isles.
Much as I support the moral principles behind this bill, I have to question the deficit to the individual PCT's due to this bill even if it is 0.5% of national NHS income. If you are going to take that away where is the money going to come from to make it up? an increase in NI contributions perhaps? -
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Re: B126 - Hospital Car Parking Bill 2009You seem to be mistaking Primary Care Trusts with Hospitals.(Original post by davireland)
Much as I support the moral principles behind this bill, I have to question the deficit to the individual PCT's due to this bill even if it is 0.5% of national NHS income. If you are going to take that away where is the money going to come from to make it up? an increase in NI contributions perhaps?
