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Is Robert Muagabe a Socialist?

Is Robert Muagabe a Socialist, and has Britain and US been continuously undermining him because of his anti-imperialism stance?
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4x4
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lol no.
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Gremlins
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Robert Mugabe certainly considers (or considered) himself a socialist, and your line is the same as the Communist Party of Great Britain (Marxist-Leninist), which has a 'hands off Zimbabwe' campaign going for that reason. Personally, I don't think our attitude towards Zim is a case of imperialist revanchism, because Tsvangirai's lot are Trade Unionists and Anti-imperialists, too.
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People stopped saying that Mugabe was a Socialist when he stopped doing what the British Socialists said.

They were, of course, fine with when he called himself a Maoist, killed and raped nuns, and pressganged natives into his army after the threat of death.

They were, of course, fine with this man taking power over Abel Muzorewa's universal suffrage election of 1979. What is not commonly known is that the Western powers insisted that Rhodesia was NOT going to be recognised, even when it adopted universal suffrage, until Robert Mugabe was allowed to stand for election. Robert Mugabe, the murderer. Robert Mugabe, the Socialist. Robert Mugabe, the hero of Africa.
No because there is massive economic inequality in Zimbabwe. The ruling elite dominate the few sectors of the economy that actually produce anything.
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Riz_K
Is Robert Muagabe a Socialist, and has Britain and US been continuously undermining him because of his anti-imperialism stance?


Yes. Robert Mugabe is a socialist. But the reason he is being criticised has nothing to do with him being a socialist or an anti-imperialist. It's to do with the way he has wilfully and neglegently mismanaged the economy to the point where people are starving to death and the spirit of divisivness he has cultivated in the country.
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Bagration
People stopped saying that Mugabe was a Socialist when he stopped doing what the British Socialists said.

They were, of course, fine with when he called himself a Maoist, killed and raped nuns, and pressganged natives into his army after the threat of death.

They were, of course, fine with this man taking power over Abel Muzorewa's universal suffrage election of 1979. What is not commonly known is that the Western powers insisted that Rhodesia was NOT going to be recognised, even when it adopted universal suffrage, until Robert Mugabe was allowed to stand for election. Robert Mugabe, the murderer. Robert Mugabe, the Socialist. Robert Mugabe, the hero of Africa.


Reminds me of Idi Amin............"His Excellency, President for Life Field Marshall Al Hadj Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC. Lord of all the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Sea and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular.......
Howard
It's to do with the way he has wilfully and neglegently mismanaged the economy to the point where people are starving to death and the spirit of divisivness he has cultivated in the country.


Wait, I thought you just said it wasn't because he's a socialist :confused:
Not by any sensible definition of the word.
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Howard
Yes. Robert Mugabe is a socialist. But the reason he is being criticised has nothing to do with him being a socialist or an anti-imperialist. It's to do with the way he has wilfully and neglegently mismanaged the economy to the point where people are starving to death and the spirit of divisivness he has cultivated in the country.

QFT.
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Wait, I thought you just said it wasn't because he's a socialist :confused:


You can lean towards economic socialism without starving everyone to death.
Howard
Yes. Robert Mugabe is a socialist... It's to do with the way he has wilfully and neglegently mismanaged the economy to the point where people are starving to death and the spirit of divisivness he has cultivated in the country.
I'm sure that's just a coincidence Howard. Really, I am.
Absolutely not. While his people die from a cholera pandemic and hyperinflation means that a loaf of bread costs Z$550,000,000, Robert Mugabe meanwhile can relax at his house.
Mugabe is a Maoist whose policies have had the same effect they had in the PRC. 'Gross mismanagement of the economy' can hardly be seperated from socialism - in a non-socialist economy, the President wouldn't 'manage' the economy at all!
Mugabe isn't a socialist. First of all his country needs an economy, then it can pick an ideology.

He's just a nutter who has failed his country. The sooner he's on a plane to the Hague the better.
diplomatieth
Mugabe isn't a socialist. First of all his country needs an economy, then it can pick an ideology.
Under white minority rule it was one of the richest countries in Africa.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7906031.stm

Stealing from the rich, ruining for the poor. It looks like Zimbabwe's going to be alright after-all!
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shivan_cfc
he's messed the country who once adored him up. the economy is finished and the small amount of people in charge are getting richer whereas the rest are in poverty.
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tashii1411
well obviously not.

Birchington
Robert Mugabe meanwhile can relax at his house.


and bloody hell! now i just hate him even more.
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Begoner
He's not a socialist or a capitalist; just a quotidian, run-of-the-mill authoritarian. The people don't have the right to collectively manage the country's capital resources (as under socialism), nor do they have the right to enterprise unhindered by government (as under capitalism).

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