Nah they have bene to court and won before, the police raided them and took the servers and everything. TPB won, and they had all the servers returned.
Nah they have bene to court and won before, the police raided them and took the servers and everything. TPB won, and they had all the servers returned.
How is that revelant? Semantic technicalities don't make it any less illegal.
In this case it makes all the difference. Can't comment on laws in other countries, but in England and Wales it's specifically stated that it's only theft if your are depriving someone of something. Making copies of data does not count. Copyright infringement could be considered 'less illegal' in some senses.
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Meh it's still not offline, I reckon it'll carry on. Their idea of buying Sealand was one of the best things I'd ever heard, they should be allowed to do whatever they like just for suggesting to do that.
I doubt buying Sealand would work. Sealand claims to be an independent country, but the only reason the UK government leaves them to it is because they haven't done anything to really piss anyone off. If they started a massive file sharing hub then you can bet that parliament would decide once and for all that UK laws do apply there and they'd get their pants sued off.
Day 4 of The Pirate Bay trial has seen the focus on Fredrik who was questioned at length. When it was movie industry lawyer Monique Wadsted ’s turn, she wasted no time in unexpectedly introducing new evidence. Both the defense and the court complained at this point, with Wadsted choosing to shout down the judge.
In this case it makes all the difference. Can't comment on laws in other countries, but in England and Wales it's specifically stated that it's only theft if your are depriving someone of something. Making copies of data does not count. Copyright infringement could be considered 'less illegal' in some senses.
Actually the counter-argument for that (been used many a time by anti-piracists [I might have just made that word up]) is that by making a copy, rather than buying a copy, you are depriving the companies of the money they would have received from it being bought. Of course there are arguments to counter this, but I thought I'd point it out as it is an argument used commonly.
I doubt buying Sealand would work. Sealand claims to be an independent country, but the only reason the UK government leaves them to it is because they haven't done anything to really piss anyone off. If they started a massive file sharing hub then you can bet that parliament would decide once and for all that UK laws do apply there and they'd get their pants sued off.
No it's out of the question now TPB considered it a few years ago. I just mentioned it because it's a fantastic idea "we're getting told off for filesharing in this country...I know! lets just buy are own."
I was saying I wouldn't shut them down just for even considering it a few years ago. Pure genius.
Actually the counter-argument for that (been used many a time by anti-piracists [I might have just made that word up]) is that by making a copy, rather than buying a copy, you are depriving the companies of the money they would have received from it being bought. Of course there are arguments to counter this, but I thought I'd point it out as it is an argument used commonly.
You could argue that morally, but legally I think it's pretty clear cut that you are not depriving them of any physical object.
You could argue that morally, but legally I think it's pretty clear cut that you are not depriving them of any physical object.
Theft doesn't have to be of a physical object. But I'm not arguing the point myself, like I said there are arguments against it, which I would agree with more. I was just pointing it out.