love and marriage during the elizabethan era

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    hey there,

    currently i'm doing a coursework on love and marriage in the elizabethan era based on two plays ; Much Ado About Nothing and Othello.

    so,im comparing the four main couples in these plays on whether love exists in their relationships but i don't think it's a good idea to see it this way as love is very subjective.

    i couldn't say that Hero loves Claudio as she has toooooooooo little lines.:mad:

    and what Shakespeare wants to point out through these couples-criticisms on Elizabethan marriage.

    HERO-CLAUDIO :confused::huff: :huff: :huff: :huff: :huff:
    BEATRICE-BENEDICK:cute:
    OTHELLO-DESDEMONA:cry:
    IAGO-EMILIA :unsure:

    help.thanx

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    (Original post by cyrillus26)
    i couldn't say that Hero loves Claudio as she has toooooooooo little lines.:mad:
    Within the play, does it actually matter whether she loves him or not? Assuming she didn't (but for some reason or other agreed to marry him anyway), would the play's dynamics change at all, and would she or the other characters act any differently?

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    (Original post by hobnob)
    Within the play, does it actually matter whether she loves him or not? Assuming she didn't (but for some reason or other agreed to marry him anyway), would the play's dynamics change at all, and would she or the other characters act any differently?
    that's exactly what i meant
    i cannot look it that way because it is not a strong argument on whether she loves him or not.
    and i need opinions on how should i compare all these couple,in what way.
    what do you think if i look at how honest they are with each other?

    hero & Cl-conventional and prim -not honest
    bene & beatrc-not the usual elizabethan couple-know what the other is thinking-honest?

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    (Original post by cyrillus26)
    that's exactly what i meant
    i cannot look it that way because it is not a strong argument on whether she loves him or not.
    and i need opinions on how should i compare all these couple,in what way.
    what do you think if i look at how honest they are with each other?
    So you don't think the fact that you have a pair of romantic lovers with whom you can't actually tell with any degree of certainty whether they really love each other, says something about how love and marriage are represented in the play?
    bene & beatrc-not the usual elizabethan couple-know what the other is thinking-honest?
    Those are some sweeping claims you're making there. What exactly are you basing your views about "the usual Elizabethan couple" on, then, and what would a "usual Elizabethan couple" be like?
    And are Beatrice and Benedick really so honest with each other and "know what the other is thinking"? After all, they both spend most of the play being deluded about their feelings for each other and each of them is convinced that he (or she) knows more than the other - when really they don't...

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    (Original post by hobnob)
    So you don't think the fact that you have a pair of romantic lovers with whom you can't actually tell with any degree of certainty whether they really love each other, says something about how love and marriage are represented in the play?

    Those are some sweeping claims you're making there. What exactly are you basing your views about "the usual Elizabethan couple" on, then, and what would a "usual Elizabethan couple" be like?
    And are Beatrice and Benedick really so honest with each other and "know what the other is thinking"? After all, they both spend most of the play being deluded about their feelings for each other and each of them is convinced that he (or she) knows more than the other - when really they don't...
    wow
    you're good
    no,really really good
    seriously
    im freaking out
    i think i'll have to give this a looooooooooooong thought..

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