[omegaweapon1987]

I am currently studying Music Technology as a B-Tech National Diploma and I plan to continue on studying at university. I want to go more indepth into live sound and studio engineering and have looked at huddersfield and manchester school of sound recording can anyone give me some insight on some other universitys maybe personal experiences and let me know which university would be my best option, distance isnt a problem for me.

[lyrical17]

SAE institute - renown for music technology and sound engineering.

[The_Lonely_Goatherd]

Brunel is known for its Music Tech/Sonic Arts stuff

[omegaweapon1987]

Originally Posted by lyrical17

SAE institute - renown for music technology and sound engineering.

The stuff on there website looks good but I cant really work out where there campuses are or entry requirements ect.

[lyrical17]

Originally Posted by omegaweapon1987

The stuff on there website looks good but I cant really work out where there campuses are or entry requirements ect.

Oh it doesnt work like that,

the entry requirements are money.

Its an independant college in central london, the fees are quiet large but the education is second to none and is your best shot into the industry.

thier london college site is below

http://london.sae.edu/en-gb/

the location is

London
SAE House
297 Kingsland Road
E8 4DD London

[omegaweapon1987]

what the point in me doing college then if i can just pay to get in haha..

[lyrical17]

Originally Posted by omegaweapon1987

what the point in me doing college then if i can just pay to get in haha..

lol true, but there are universities that do music technology that will require ucas points such as birmingham city universty, anglia ruskin university, central lancaster university, bedfordshire university, demontford university, Thames valley university,

there are lots of universities that do music technology...do a ucas course search using the term "music technology"..

hope this helps

[omegaweapon1987]

I am currently running on all distinctions so grading isnt really much of a issue just curious of where offers the best course for sound engineering

[candytreeman]

just following this up - I know some people who went to manchester ssr and they hated it and left. apprently you get very limited access to the studios if you're not on the main degree or something. i know someone who went to huddersfield and he enjoyed it.

[Rob19]

Originally Posted by omegaweapon1987

I am currently running on all distinctions so grading isnt really much of a issue just curious of where offers the best course for sound engineering

Make sure they accept BTEC's first. I completed a music BTEC with all distinctions before finding that many top uni's don't accept them, or only do with either one or two A levels as well.

A friend of mine did a creative music tech/production course at Bath Spa, he had the grades to go anywhere so it must have been good. Lancaster accepts BTEC's (DDM) and is very good, and has a good reputation. Also, Keele and Kent are quite good. If you have an A level as well you can apply to York and a few other really good place.

Good luck, hope this helps.

[lyrical17]

Originally Posted by Rob19

Make sure they accept BTEC's first. I completed a music BTEC with all distinctions before finding that many top uni's don't accept them, or only do with either one or two A levels as well.

A friend of mine did a creative music tech/production course at Bath Spa, he had the grades to go anywhere so it must have been good. Lancaster accepts BTEC's (DDM) and is very good, and has a good reputation. Also, Keele and Kent are quite good. If you have an A level as well you can apply to York and a few other really good place.

Good luck, hope this helps.

damn, so what did you do after the BTEC? if you couldnt get into the top unis?

[Rob19]

I'm doing random AS levels this year and have applied to read philosophy. As a slightly older student I seem to have been accepted on the grounds that I have enough U.C.A.S points, a well written personal statement, and was enthusiastic at my interviews. So all is good.

[Decs.]

I copied your answer to my friend. He is a recording engineer himself, has worked in a number of famous studios and with a considerable amount of famous artists and producers. I hope his answer helps, I am confident enough to say you would struggle to find someone more experienced or qualified to provide one..

With that qualification, LIPA is the best in the country, they will probably ask for 280/300 points. The facilities are excellent but it's damn hard work,a lot of physics and maths. So long as you're upto it, it's ultimately an incredibly rewarding course

LIPA is Paul McCartneys place in liverpool, an arts focused institute. So i asked asked why is it so good and why is it better than larger full scale universities that offer music tech courses. Just to provide a rounded answer.

He's trying to get into an industry where there are no jobs. Literally, the only jobs that exist are from when people retire or die so you need to go to places that are recognised. The only two in this country that are are Tonmeister in Surrey (which will only think about you if you have an A in both A-level physics and maths) and LIPA. LIPA is very technical, theoretical and the facilities are top-notch the level of teaching is extremely high

Though he should also think about the fact that the industry doesn't just run on credentials, it runs on experience. LIPA's amazing, and he'll learn an incredible amount, but they look for people who are pro-active.'

Anything else you want to know I can forward to him, as i said, this isn't just some 18 year old in his first year trying to big up the place he studies. It's an answer from somebody in the industry itself.

[zippyRN]

What Decs says ... a school friend of mine who is building quite a good portfolio and reputation for sound engineering and producing also went to LIPA

[Kevin02]

I would recommend ssr theyll even help you find a job after you graduate, youll go to spain and other countries and youll actually see everything behind the industy.

http://s-s-r.com/bsc_sound_engineering_design.asp


peace.

[BenPottsDrums]

Originally Posted by The_Lonely_Goatherd

Brunel is known for its Music Tech/Sonic Arts stuff

Is that based on anecdotal evidence or..?

[The_Lonely_Goatherd]

Originally Posted by BenPottsDrums

Is that based on anecdotal evidence or..?

Pretty much yeah. My best mate used to go there, so I knew stuff about the place. Unfortunately she ended up hating it and transferred, so...

(Btw, have nearly finished reviewing your PS, will try and post it tonight or tomorrow)

[BenPottsDrums]

Originally Posted by The_Lonely_Goatherd

Pretty much yeah. My best mate used to go there, so I knew stuff about the place. Unfortunately she ended up hating it and transferred, so...

(Btw, have nearly finished reviewing your PS, will try and post it tonight or tomorrow)

HAHA! That's not the best thing to tell me! I'm pretty much classing it as my 'main' choice

Great stuff!
I hope It's not too terrible

[candytreeman]

Originally Posted by Decs.

I copied your answer to my friend. He is a recording engineer himself, has worked in a number of famous studios and with a considerable amount of famous artists and producers. I hope his answer helps, I am confident enough to say you would struggle to find someone more experienced or qualified to provide one..



LIPA is Paul McCartneys place in liverpool, an arts focused institute. So i asked asked why is it so good and why is it better than larger full scale universities that offer music tech courses. Just to provide a rounded answer.



Anything else you want to know I can forward to him, as i said, this isn't just some 18 year old in his first year trying to big up the place he studies. It's an answer from somebody in the industry itself.

LIPA has some considerable downsides though, in how technical it is. And the Tonmeister at Surrey is an even better example - a lot of people consider them to be training people for jobs that don't exist these days. They're getting taught on this huge, expensive equipment that you just don't see in the real world anymore. I've seen their department and it is very impressive, but one of the lecturers there (keeping anon, lol) said exactly that, and that it's too elite for it's own good - churning out x amount of students per year trained on desks that are probably in about 5 places in the whole country!

It depends on what exactly you want to do. The area is a lot more specific than most people think. If you want to be a sound ENGINEER, then those places are top! If you want to work more broadly in the industry, look elsewhere imo.

To the OP, look for JAMES and APRS accreditation on the courses.

Some I would recommend:
- Leeds College of Music
- Huddersfield
- Westminster
- Bath Spa

[candytreeman]

Originally Posted by Kevin02

I would recommend ssr theyll even help you find a job after you graduate, youll go to spain and other countries and youll actually see everything behind the industy.

http://s-s-r.com/bsc_sound_engineering_design.asp


peace.

I would recommend against Manchester SSR based on what I have seen.

A lot of ex students were working there - on reception or as roadies etc. And they had a bad attitude. The place is well equipped, but the students there that I was working with really hated it - they said they hardly got any access to studios as students on the most expensive course were given priority, and that the lecturers themselves used up loads of the studio bookings.

It's easy for places to say they'll help you find a job after graduation, but in reality that just means they'll give you basic career advice. It is all up to you.

Point blank is another college that I heard bad things about, but I haven't visited.

Alchemea is similar, but I'd actually recommend that one if you're going for the straight sound engineering thing (but you'll probably end up doing live sound). Great facilities, students there enjoyed it. But you do only end up with a diploma.