Do you think an autonomous Kurdistan is feasible?

L i b

No. Anyone who fights for nationalism is scum.

Why?

Reply 21

Bubbles*de*Milo

Why?

Dying for bigotry? No thanks.

How about instead of fighting to separate from other people, they work hard to try and live with them and their other neighbours?

Reply 22

Yes to Iraq and maybe Syria, no to Iran, extremely unlikely to happen with Turkey might as well give up there....

Personally I would have an independent state in Iraq, or have it autonomous with Iran.

Reply 23

Bismarck

So you think it's wrong for Kurds to fight for the right to speak their own language, have radio/television in their language, and for it to not be illegal to claim that Kurds are not Turks?

No, no I don't, and to be frank I think you're a bit cleverer than to think that's a legitimate argument against what I have said.

Reply 24

Bismarck

The point is that the conflict isn't as simply as the Kurds being nationalists...it would probably not even be an issue if the Turks didn't try to suppress Kurdish identity using all means at their disposal.

Well then they should address the problems with the Turkish state rather than simply trying to leave it.

Reply 25

username196545

OP

Bismarck

I'm not chubby. Or female for that matter. :tongue:

Thought it was a guy... :frown:

Reply 26

Btw regarding the thread title there is an "autonomous Kurdistan" currently...

Reply 27

Turkey is too strong to lose the battle against the PKK. However, the PKK are trying their best to use propaganda to get the Western powers on their side for them to pressure Turkey to give up the land. What do you guys think the Western powers will do? Would they pressure Turkey to give up the land or would they rather be behind Turkey?

Thank you in advance for your replies. :smile:

Reply 28

Bismarck

Ah yes, if someone was trying to destroy your identity for decades, you'd be able to trust them with your future well-being.

Assuming that means all the people of Turkey, that's ********. But more importantly, yes, they are the most significant people you should try to reconcile with. In many cases, there are fears on both sides that need put right - secession would only make that worse.

Reply 29

aykss

Turkey is too strong to lose the battle against the PKK. However, the PKK are trying their best to use propaganda to get the Western powers on their side for them to pressure Turkey to give up the land. What do you guys think the Western powers will do? Would they pressure Turkey to give up the land or would they rather be behind Turkey?

Thank you in advance for your replies. :smile:

No way will Turkey (or Western countries pressure them to) give up Kurdish areas of Turkey, that is a fact. The Western countries would be more interested in better rights for Kurds etc.. That's it.

Reply 30

Bismarck

They'll make some noise occasionally, but won't do anything. It's not worth it.

Totally agree mate.

Thank you for your reply.

Reply 31

Neville 'Facking' Bartos

No way will Turkey (or Western countries pressure them to) give up Kurdish areas of Turkey, that is a fact. The Western countries would be more interested in better rights for Kurds etc.. That's it.

Read my post carefully!

Reply 32

I said: 'Would the Western powers pressure Turkey to give up parts of its land for the Kurds?'

Reply 33

aykss

I said: 'Would the Western powers pressure Turkey to give up parts of its land for the Kurds?'

Answer: no

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