Why are Americans backward socially?

lol. In that you can"t understand what I was trying to say or that my argument doesn"t make sense?

Peace x

Your argument makes zero sense. That is all.

All I said was that you can"t simultaneously believe in teh existence of dinosaurs 60 million years ago if you believe in full blown creationism which suggests that the earth was created 6000 years ago.

Seems logical to me.

Peace x

Believing in any religion is backwards imo. Believing in creationism doubly so. You certainly can"t believe in Dinosaurs and creationism

"Dinosaurs against Creationism" society ftw

Peace x

So, basically you're saying that in America, the bar is deliberately lowered to accomodate blacks who are not really fit to be in those positions by dint of their own merit.

Are you sure about that?

Please rationally explain that part, with conclusive evidence that in all situations, religion has only ever taken the world (on both an individual and societal level) "backwards." Please give a detailed analysis on the clear set-backs for every believer of every religion, and why these setbacks are not greater than their subjective returns, or whether or not setbacks are even, indeed, felt by all (if any member of said chosen religion).

You made the claim, now back it up. Conclusively, as you've claimed within the context of your statement that it is obvious.

Sorry but I made no claim as to whether religion "sets back" believers (though in many cases I would believe that to be the case). I did not make the claim that religion takes us backwards (though again in many cases I would believe that to be the case). I said that believing in religion is backwards.

Believing in religion is backwards because it is becoming increasingly clear that as society progresses it comes to reject religion, just as society has come to reject slavery and accept multiculturalism as it has progressed.

I refuse to accept the distinction between the "individual and societal level" btw

The animal rights movement will be the next set of values to be widely accepted I think.

Peace x

The point isn't necessarily about black people, it's about minorities in general. Americans are accused of being "widely" racist against black people. From what I've seen on TSR, the British could be accused of being "widely" against Middle Eastern immigration.

For God's sake, even on TSR it's quite clear that such a stereotype wouldn't be true, but it's quite indicative of the way humans perceive other groups of people....the person with the worst behavior is always seen to be the most typical way to behave within a strange population.

There's an argument that at least needs refuting to be made there, but the post I was quoting was doing none of that. It was just a facetious suggestion that somehow because you don't see a lot of black faces in the British police force that it's because black rights in the uk are undeveloped.

I can't work out however if he was being a clever boy and both trolling and making an interesting point with his obama reference, or if he just thought it genuinely brought basis to his argument as it might if one were trying to win over a mob.

Huh, maybe his point was that TSR is the mob?

I think I'm giving a random person on the internet a bit too much agency. I think he was just being stupid and reactionary.

I don't often engage in arguments of this ilk on the board, I tend to just attack certain stupid uses of logic or stupid suggestions individually and leave it at that. I'd end up losing my hair if I actually chose to care too much about the mob opinion on the board.

I'm not a non BNP racist.

How about asking yourself why a party like the BNP exists in the first place? There is no counterpart to the BNP in this country. The closest thing we have is the KKK, and the KKK isn't political party and, in 2009, it's pretty much faded into complete obscurity.

American domestic history is far more racist than Britain's in the most obvious sense - The BNP/NF have been on the fringes since their inception, but have always been widely rejected as a political alternative by the majority of the population.

If you go back to the 1920s the KKK had millions of members and as recently as the 1950s there were places where someone who looked like Obama wouldn't be allowed to use the drinking fountain. I think we've made very big strides since then and the US is the closest country to a "melting pot" where ethnicities from all over the world work together every day. It's got it's faults, but I really don't understand why NS started this thread. Why does everyone need to feel "culturally superior" to the US anyway?

The UK is more socially backwards than America.

What does need pointing out though, is we do not claim to be "the land of the free" wheras America does. For this reason I feel Americans have a greater obligation/necessity to become more liberal on social issues. It never ceases to disappoint and confuse me that on economic issues they retain their free-market liberalism, and their pride in doing so (especially republicans) and yet on social issues such liberalism is then disregarded (especially by republicans.)