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Old 21-03-2009: 21st March 2009 18:28 #1 
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I was going through the C4 differentiation chapter for revision. I found the implicit differentiation questions really hard and am currently stuck on this question:

Ex 4B

Find an expression in terms of of x and y for dy/dx, given that:

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(x-y)^4 = x + y + 5

... My solution was to do ....

[4(x-y)^3 * 1 * dy/dx)] = 1 + dy/dx + 5
[4(x-y)^3 * dy/dx] - dy/dx = 1 + 5
dy/dx[4(x-y)^3 - 1] = 1 + 5

dy/dx = (1 + 5)/(4(x-y)^3 - 1)

... but the answer should be: [4(x-y)^3- 1]/[1 + 4(x-y)^3]

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Two things:

a) The derivative of "5" is zero; it's just a constant.

b) To differentiate (x-y)^4, try a substitution, and then use the chain rule. Let z=x-y in this case.
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Your differentiation is wrong. The first line should be:

4(x-y)^{3}(1-\frac{dy}{dx})=1+\frac{dy}{dx}

Can you get it from here?
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Originally Posted by G.J.Speight
Your differentiation is wrong. The first line should be:

4(x-y)^{3}(1-\frac{dy}{dx})=1+\frac{dy}{dx}

Can you get it from here?

Thanks, I can now see you you differentiated the first bit. However, I can not think how i could multiply out "4(x-y)^3(1-dy/dx)" ... I'm having a mind blank!
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Keep the 4(x-y)^{3} part together, so 4(x-y)^{3}(1-\frac{dy}{dx})=4(x-y)^{3}-4(x-y)^{3}\frac{dy}{dx}.
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Originally Posted by G.J.Speight
Keep the 4(x-y)^{3} part together, so 4(x-y)^{3}(1-\frac{dy}{dx})=4(x-y)^{3}-4(x-y)^{3}\frac{dy}{dx}.

Thanks, I got the answer!
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