[Xenomorph v2.1]

(Original post by El Stevo)
the spa 95 race i linked? this is what happened: http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns00260.html that's equally if not harsher than anything hamilton has had.

Ouch! that is harsh indeed! This happened when I was only 4, If only I was old enough during Michael Schumachar's early career.

[ahmadjan3]

(Original post by Xenomorph v2.1)
Ouch! that is harsh indeed! This happened when I was only 4, If only I was old enough during Michael Schumachar's early career.

another anonying ferrari fan

[Xenomorph v2.1]

(Original post by ahmadjan3)
another anonying ferrari fan

Yeah the fans that don't exaggerate

[what_apples]

(Original post by Advanced Subsidiary)
I really don't understand. The decision that was made was correct, justice was done. Why are people upset that Hamilton's points were deducted?

You really don't get it?

People aren't (on the whole) complaining about the decision that was reached, they're unhappy about the way the FIA goes about reaching them. If this was really the decision that should have been reached, then there shouldn't have been another decision prior to this that had to be reversed.

I, for one, don't understand why all the people involved in handing out the penalties wouldn't have listened to the radio transmissions before making a decision. It just goes to show how negligent they were and re-inforces the image of the governing body as being incompetent, which makes the level on which they can alter the result of a race all the more worrying; in essence, it can make the racing itself (which is what F1 is supposed to be about) meaningless.

[Advanced Subsidiary]

(Original post by what_apples)
You really don't get it?

People aren't (on the whole) complaining about the decision that was reached, they're unhappy about the way the FIA goes about reaching them. If this was really the decision that should have been reached, then there shouldn't have been another decision prior to this that had to be reversed.

I, for one, don't understand why all the people involved in handing out the penalties wouldn't have listened to the radio transmissions before making a decision. It just goes to show how negligent they were and re-inforces the image of the governing body as being incompetent, which makes the level on which they can alter the result of a race all the more worrying; in essence, it can make the racing itself (which is what F1 is supposed to be about) meaningless.

Oh right now I understand, thank for clearing it up.

[ahmadjan3]

(Original post by Xenomorph v2.1)
Yeah the fans that don't exaggerate the teams success by stating that the drivers are the best after only 1-2 seasons. Ferrari is the best team both statistically and in the eyes of the leaders of F1 who also give Ferrari priority in regards to so many aspects of the sport, it's all for a reason - Ferrari is simply the best.

yeah sure the best team.
a few points
1. wet weather performance
2. pit lane accident massa twice in a season
3. sore loser singapore
4. enough said

[Lehane]

This news has left me with a huge smile on my face. I, like the FIA, thought the right decision had been made, but the fact Hamilton said he'd let Trulli past, and then tried to make out he just overtook Hamilton.

Justice has been done, for once (unlike the Vettel/Kubica thing). Shame McLaren didn't just tell the truth and keep fourth; then they'd be on 5 points, with Ferrari on absolutely nothing. Now they're even being beaten by STR!

[mikeyd85]

(Original post by ahmadjan3)
yeah sure the best team.
a few points
1. wet weather performance
2. pit lane accident massa twice in a season
3. sore loser singapore
4. enough said

Who are the current contructors champions?

[GYinWL]

(Original post by what_apples)
You really don't get it?

People aren't (on the whole) complaining about the decision that was reached, they're unhappy about the way the FIA goes about reaching them. If this was really the decision that should have been reached, then there shouldn't have been another decision prior to this that had to be reversed.

I, for one, don't understand why all the people involved in handing out the penalties wouldn't have listened to the radio transmissions before making a decision. It just goes to show how negligent they were and re-inforces the image of the governing body as being incompetent, which makes the level on which they can alter the result of a race all the more worrying; in essence, it can make the racing itself (which is what F1 is supposed to be about) meaningless.

This.

[Untitled258]

(Original post by Advanced Subsidiary)
I really don't understand. The decision that was made was correct, justice was done. Why are people upset that Hamilton's points were deducted?

Because the FIA are to get him omgz!!!!



I agree with what Brundle says on the clip on the BBC site really, they should of told them the whole storey with all the transmissions and the chances are he would f got 4th, hes not been punished for passing trulli, or letting him back through he has been punished for what has been perseaved as him misleading the stewards in there enquirys, and pleading ignorance saying they where listening to all the transmissions isnt a fantastic excuse.

[El Stevo]

(Original post by ahmadjan3)
yeah sure the best team.
a few points
1. wet weather performance
2. pit lane accident massa twice in a season
3. sore loser singapore
4. enough said

1. for half of one season, the car couldnt generate heat in its tyres means the team is crap?
2. **** happens.
3. lmfao?
4. fail.

[Xenomorph v2.1]

(Original post by ahmadjan3)
yeah sure the best team.
a few points
1. wet weather performance
2. pit lane accident massa twice in a season
3. sore loser singapore
4. enough said

They're so bad yet they manage to win the Constructors' Championship, so where does that put them relative to other teams? Ferrari are bad which makes its competitors....?

Like it or not opinions aside, they are the best team it cannot be disputed.

[Untitled258]

(Original post by El Stevo)
1. for half of one season, the car couldnt generate heat in its tyres means the team is crap?
2. **** happens.
3. lmfao?
4. fail.

Seriously, ignore him.

90% of me disliking lewis is down to him, the other 10% is down to James Allen, go figure.

[Xenomorph v2.1]

(Original post by El Stevo)
Not being funny, but does anyone have a link to them? Or a transcript? I haven't seen them...

Transcript of McLaren's radio transmission:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74159

[ahmadjan3]

(Original post by El Stevo)
1. for half of one season, the car couldnt generate heat in its tyres means the team is crap?
2. **** happens.
3. lmfao?
4. fail.

epic fail

[PoisonDonna]

WOAH look what the FIA have done:
http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre..._decision.aspx

[castroneves]

(Original post by geoff_yin)
This.

But this is nothing new, remember Brazil 1995, the fuel irregularity rucess was going for some time, they took a couple of days to dsq coulthard and schumacher, only to then reinstate them and deduct the constructor points.

[Xenomorph v2.1]

(Original post by PoisonDonna)
WOAH look what the FIA have done:
http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre..._decision.aspx

I just listened to it right now! I don't get where the 'cheating' takes place

[ahmadjan3]

(Original post by Untitled258)
Seriously, ignore him.

90% of me disliking lewis is down to him, the other 10% is down to James Allen, go figure.

i am not always on lewis side. mclaren and lewis are being stupid this time. what i am angry about is FIA taking so long to look at the full evidence. why did it take them four days to decide? why didn't they look at the full story at first?

[GYinWL]

(Original post by castroneves)
But this is nothing new, remember Brazil 1995, the fuel irregularity rucess was going for some time, they took a couple of days to dsq coulthard and schumacher, only to then reinstate them and deduct the constructor points.

No I don't remember it because I was only 8 years old and did not follow F1 at the time .

But seeing that that's the case, it's still silly that these sort of things are still happening in 2009...