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    (Original post by Waldhexe)
    Hey! Congratulations to everyone on their results .
    I have a question which is worrying me, and I was wondering if anyone could answer it. Basically, I just found out my prelims results for History & German on the student system but I'm actually not sure what I got. Down at the bottom, just below the table with individual paper results, it says I got History: distinction and German: distinction. This makes sense, since I've looked up how you get distinctions in those subjects, and I've fulfilled those requirements in terms of the individual unit marks I got. However, in the 'Year Outcome' box at the top of the table, it says my outcome was a Pass. What does this all mean? Is it possible to have distinctions in both subjects but only have a Pass overall? Argh!
    I think joint schools/languages are a little weird in that distinctions are technically awarded only for the specific components of the course (so History and German for you). Someone on here doing English and French was asking the same thing. Both he, you and I got 'distinction' in both subject boxes but a pass in the top result box.

    Saying that, it could be a general thing...can anyone who does a single subject and got a distinction confirm whether it says just pass in the top box?

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    In first year I got a distinction in prelims and at the top it said: Distinction (still does)

    But this info is 2 years out of date now.
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    (Original post by flywithemma)
    Ah, okay. Have you started it yet? Just from checking your profile where you state 'Doing a Foundation Certificate in History at Kellogg College, University of Oxford, then into the 2nd year of the BA History at New College, Oxford'- a bit unsure about what exactly you're doing this year/when and where you're joining the Oxford course, that's all
    Also I may be confusing you with someone else, but I believe you've started undergraduate history at university before? If this is the case, I'd imagine you'll take less time trying to 'find your feet'.

    I don't really know whether 'finding your feet' and 'illuminating' need to be mutually exclusive- the process of finding my feet was, for me, one that was pretty illuminating and made me really explore the subject I'd chosen to study and why it was that I was doing it. In my experience, Michaelmas was a pretty big culture shock, and I think I was mistaken in my approach as I spent too much time in the library/tried to read too much of the reading list and sort of got a bit overwhelmed with both the academic and social side of university. However, by Hilary, partly because the modules I was doing were ones that I found myself enjoying a lot more, and also because lots of things in my personal life started to fall into place, things got a lot better. Of course, come Trinity exam season I was once again questioning why I'd chosen history/Oxford/etc etc, but I'd pretty much say that from February things were a lot better.

    Have you had to choose any modules yet?




    Kind of (see discussion above regarding how it varies between colleges what exactly 'swishy gowns'/scholarship/rewards etc. are given for). Although generally the universal convention seems to be that you do tend to get a different sort of gown if you get the top band (be that distinction or first) in your first year examinations.
    My intention is to join New College in the 2nd year; in reality I've yet to start the Foundation Certificate in History. I've always found it useful to have a very clear idea of what I want to achieve, so that's just testament to that, really. I have indeed studied before: I started a Modern History & Politics course at the University of Southampton in Sep' 2011, and before that had started an American Literature & Creative Writing course at the U.E.A. in Sep' 2009. As I said, it's taken me a little time to find my 'true calling', though in fairness it'd been a toss-up between History or English as to which I'd pursue at degree level all through my school years. I'm just glad I've finally found my niche, as it were.

    I think most people, or at least most sensible people, would use their first year at any university - though no doubt this is especially true at Oxbridge - spend their time really getting the 'lay of the land' --- I should start a competition to see how many clichés I can clock up in one post, haha --- and finding what works for them academically. Given the infamous undergraduate workload (two essays a week at most Oxbridge colleges, I believe?), I'd have thought students' first priority alongside making nice with people in college would be to devise an efficient study system. I'm sure this comes with experience, though, too - as you say, it took until February of your first year for you to feel really comfortable and confident. I don't doubt this is what most students experience: look at me, it's taken me two or three tries to even find a course I feel will really suit me! But then often us 'late bloomers' have had more cumulative life experience, so that can lend advantages in its own ways too.

    I'll bet Fresher's Week at an Oxford college is pretty freakin' daunting - I'm trying to think of the good pubs I know near Keble College...Hmmm...

    I say 'New College' on my profile, this is true - I honestly would be pretty blown away if I were able to get onto the full-time undergraduate course regardless of what college that would be. I'm slightly hesitant to say either St. Anne's or Keble because my mum's the College Nurse for those colleges! I honestly wouldn't mind much in terms of college choice, really: indeed, if the situation arises where I'm advised by the tutors on the foundation course that an application for direct entry into the 2nd year would be likely to at least 'be competitive', as it were, then I'd probably make an open application.

    We don't really have module choices, as such: we follow a set course of compulsory modules until the end of the first year, at which time we have a 'Special Option' elective course at the end of the year right before exams - either 'Nobility & Gentry 1560-1640' or 'The Spanish Civil War 1936-39'. I've no idea which I'll pick: both look fascinating in their own ways. Did you have first-year elective optional modules, then? What about your Year 2 choices? Do you get more or less a 'free hand' to choose what you like?
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    Congratulations to everyone on their fantabulous Mods/degree results! :banana:

    Edit: Perhaps a little late to the party, but I'd disappeared off TSR for a while...
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    (Original post by SebCross)


    I'll bet Fresher's Week at an Oxford college is pretty freakin' daunting - I'm trying to think of the good pubs I know near Keble College...Hmmm...
    If you'll allow me to elaborate on my area of expertise... :cool:

    We avoided the Lamb and Flag (John's Other than first day of fresher's where we'd take college children to cram the pub so John's can't use it).

    Me and my friends either used the Eagle and Child or the Royal Oak. Sometimes we'd head over to The Turf/The KA if we were feeling a little more adventurous. The bar is also very nice post-revamp too (much better than my first year!)

    EDIT: Chat like this just makes me realise how much I'm going to miss Keble :emo: *sigh* back to the job hunt..
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    (Original post by pinkpenguin)
    If you'll allow me to elaborate on my area of expertise... :cool:

    We avoided the Lamb and Flag (John's Other than first day of fresher's where we'd take college children to cram the pub so John's can't useit).

    Me and my friends either used the Eagle and Child or the Royal Oak. Sometimes we'd head over to The Turf/The KA if we were feeling a little more adventurous. The bar is also very nice post-revamp too (much better than my first year!)

    EDIT: Chat like this just makes me realise how much I'm going to miss Keble :emo: *sigh* back to the job hunt..
    Glad to hear it was such a great time for you in your life. What sector are you looking to head into with the prospect of a new job to come soon? (We all hope!) Best of luck with your job hunt.
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    I'm a big fan of the Eagle & Child. The K.A. is very very nice too. Indeed, it's actually quite hard for me to think of a pub in town that I don't like...Though no doubt that says more about my love of beer than anything else...
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    I like the Victoria up in Jericho and the metal pub near Tesco's on Magdalen street. Also Combibos is great.


    (Original post by The_Lonely_Goatherd)
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    (Original post by The Lyceum)
    Combiiiiiiiiiiiiiibooooooooooooo ooos.
    Not sure why you thought of me. Not like I basically lived there for three years or anything :nah:

    :ninja:

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    (Original post by SebCross)
    Glad to hear it was such a great time for you in your life. What sector are you looking to head into with the prospect of a new job to come soon? (We all hope!) Best of luck with your job hunt.
    Year out to try a few different things (like to get some internships in the political sector if possible) and then probably a law conversion.

    If it was up to me, I'd be off to Sandhurst to train to become an Officer this September, but medical reasons mean I can't do that for another 2 years or so yet. Cut backs mean I'll likely be too old so looking at other avenues.
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    (Original post by pinkpenguin)
    Year out to try a few different things (like to get some internships in the political sector if possible) and then probably a law conversion.

    If it was up to me, I'd be off to Sandhurst to train to become an Officer this September, but medical reasons mean I can't do that for another 2 years or so yet. Cut backs mean I'll likely be too old so looking at other avenues.
    Oh right, yeah that'd be no doubt absolutely fantastic; it's a shame you might be unable to do it. Has it always been an ambition of yours to serve in the Forces, then? My grandfather on my father's side served in the R.A.F. during WWII and through until the mid-Fifties. My grandfather in my mother's side served in the Royal Army Medical Corps throughout his whole career. I admire what they both did, of course, but I'm not sure I'd want to commit to a similar undertaking given the extremes of experiences they both endured.

    What did you read at Oxford, then? Not tempted to come back to the city? (So many people, in my experience, who've studied in the city, either at Oxford or at Brookes, want to settle down here, but the rents are just so so so high, particularly in the more desirable areas.)

    Cool, that political involvement sounds fascinating. Would that be for a think-tank, a pressure group or directly for a political party?

    Best wishes once again on your job hunt.
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    (Original post by SebCross)
    Oh right, yeah that'd be no doubt absolutely fantastic; it's a shame you might be unable to do it. Has it always been an ambition of yours to serve in the Forces, then? My grandfather on my father's side served in the R.A.F. during WWII and through until the mid-Fifties. My grandfather in my mother's side served in the Royal Army Medical Corps throughout his whole career. I admire what they both did, of course, but I'm not sure I'd want to commit to a similar undertaking given the extremes of experiences they both endured.

    What did you read at Oxford, then? Not tempted to come back to the city? (So many people, in my experience, who've studied in the city, either at Oxford or at Brookes, want to settle down here, but the rents are just so so so high, particularly in the more desirable areas.)

    Cool, that political involvement sounds fascinating. Would that be for a think-tank, a pressure group or directly for a political party?

    Best wishes once again on your job hunt.
    Thanks!

    Yeah it has. Only the Army though, was less interested in the other two. My Grandfather was in the Royal Irish, later the Royal Signals. The lifestyle really appeals to me, plus I get a bit agitated if I'm sat inside for too long!

    I did PPE. Loved it. Considering applying for Senior Status Law so I can actually come back to Oxford next year maybe!

    I'm looking for a mix of everything at the moment. A lot of the stuff I've been applying for is MP office-slave kinda positions that are no doubt super interesting. I've always been interested in research too so looking for think tank stuff too!
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    (Original post by pinkpenguin)
    Thanks!

    Yeah it has. Only the Army though, was less interested in the other two. My Grandfather was in the Royal Irish, later the Royal Signals. The lifestyle really appeals to me, plus I get a bit agitated if I'm sat inside for too long!

    I did PPE. Loved it. Considering applying for Senior Status Law so I can actually come back to Oxford next year maybe!

    I'm looking for a mix of everything at the moment. A lot of the stuff I've been applying for is MP office-slave kinda positions that are no doubt super interesting. I've always been interested in research too so looking for think tank stuff too!
    Good for you! I must say I'm really not as much of an 'outdoors' sort of person as I should be; being out in the springtime and summer is wonderful, but I'm really really not a winter person, so tend, rather shamefully, to spend the great majority of the winter indoors! Bad times. Cool, well if you come back to Oxford we'll have to meet up for a pint and trade family war stories (as it were). I'm sure your grandfather's experience was fascinating. I know my grandfather on my father's side feels that serving in the R.A.F. was incredibly worthwhile, even with the spectre of WWII looming over everything at that time and everything that that entailed. My grandfather on my mother's side if unfortunately no longer with us, but he used to talk about the kinds of training exercises they'd all partake in in the deepest wilderness of that most dreaded of lands, North Wales! Haha. I've no doubt at all that all those that serve feel an incredible sense of connection to the country generally and, according to both of my grandparent's, and my grandmother's brother, who served with the Royal Military Police, you really appreciate 'the little things' in peace time because it's all so far removed from the true horrors of war.

    Yes, I'd quite like to do some voluntary work with a think-tank at some stage, I think; ultimately I want to be an academic, but I don't doubt that some of the oldest think-tanks and political lobbying organisations have very very interesting historical records which would be well-worth having a 'wee gander' at, if I ever got the chance.

    Law would be such an interesting degree: hard work, though! Much like in History, my own degree subject, one needs an exceptional ability to remember names and dates - so many case study details in law, and precedents and the like! I don't doubt it was be very challenging and engaging indeed. Have you looked in to what college you might apply to, or are you perhaps keen to return to your alma mata? Hoping the job hunting is continuing to be fruitful?
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    Well done to everyone on prelims/finals results! With regards to the joint schools question: I think you can only get a distinction in the individual subjects. I didn't get a distinction anyway when I did mine (two years ago) but I seem to recall that I could theoretically have got a distinction in one but not the other, but that it was more or less irrelevant what my "overall" grade would have been.

    I have a question for people who are perhaps a bit more experienced in the accommodation department - at Merton I've just always been given accommodation and never had to think about it. My flatmate here in Berlin is coming to do a masters at St Hugh's, and has just been told that he hasn't got accommodation there. We rang the University Accommodation Services, but they weren't particularly positive regarding his chances of getting their accommodation either! Does anyone know where the best place to look for accommodation would be? We're looking at studentpad, but there the pickings are pretty slim too!
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    (Original post by Bezzler)
    I have a question for people who are perhaps a bit more experienced in the accommodation department - at Merton I've just always been given accommodation and never had to think about it. My flatmate here in Berlin is coming to do a masters at St Hugh's, and has just been told that he hasn't got accommodation there. We rang the University Accommodation Services, but they weren't particularly positive regarding his chances of getting their accommodation either! Does anyone know where the best place to look for accommodation would be? We're looking at studentpad, but there the pickings are pretty slim too!
    Gumtree tend to always have advertisements for student house-shares. Some may well be Brookes students but I'm sure that'll not be too much of a problem?

    http://www.gumtree.com/search?q=stud...perty_couples=

    (Original post by SebCross)
    Law would be such an interesting degree: hard work, though! Much like in History, my own degree subject, one needs an exceptional ability to remember names and dates - so many case study details in law, and precedents and the like! I don't doubt it was be very challenging and engaging indeed. Have you looked in to what college you might apply to, or are you perhaps keen to return to your alma mata? Hoping the job hunting is continuing to be fruitful?

    I'm considering Harris Manchester. As I'd be an undergrad, I quite like the idea of not being with a bunch of 18 y/o students, however nice I'm sure they are! Plus HMC do a 7 term course, so it's a little less stressful to do senior status..

    I would love to go back to Keble though. It all does get a little bit tribal! Although not as bad as the Oxford-Tabland thing. My parents suggested applying to Cambridge to do senior status to mix up my CV a bit. I think not.
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    (Original post by pinkpenguin)
    Gumtree tend to always have advertisements for student house-shares. Some may well be Brookes students but I'm sure that'll not be too much of a problem?

    http://www.gumtree.com/search?q=stud...perty_couples=




    I'm considering Harris Manchester. As I'd be an undergrad, I quite like the idea of not being with a bunch of 18 y/o students, however nice I'm sure they are! Plus HMC do a 7 term course, so it's a little less stressful to do senior status..

    I would love to go back to Keble though. It all does get a little bit tribal! Although not as bad as the Oxford-Tabland thing. My parents suggested applying to Cambridge to do senior status to mix up my CV a bit. I think not.
    Yes a lot of Oxford graduates then go on to Cambridge, or vice versa, when they've completed their first degrees. Of course there's a very visceral and primal rivalry between the two cities and the two universities, but that just makes things more eventful if nothing else! Yes Keble has some beautiful grounds and I'm sure it's a fantastic college; Harris Manchester, equally, has a lot going for it. Its position in the city is excellent, for one. I also like the idea of being amongst people who are hopefully more enlightened and mature than your average 18-year-old fresher, which is why I'm so glad about starting the foundation course in October. The Department for Continuing Education sends a lot of its students on to Harris Manchester, being the only dedicated mature student college (unlike The Other Place - Cam' - that has three or four, I believe), which is nice because one gets a sense of progression from one to the other. It's good to know that taking a foundation course with the Department really does lead on to full-time, more established undergraduate study.

    I'm sure you could do plenty of 'C.V. broadening' here in Oxford! The beauty of Oxford's size, as opposed to The Other Place which is about 45,000 people smaller, I believe, is that we have such a vibrant charitable sector and lots of organisations that are related to, and work closely with, the faculties of the University, without being overseen or administered by the University directly. I'm sure that The Other Place has similar things going on, but the fact that the city feels much more like a medium-sized town probably doesn't help one's feeling of vitality.

    You mention a seven term course - how would that stack up in terms of the number of complete academic years you would do, then? I don't quite grasp how that would be organised, you see.

    Regarding your comment on tribalism, I'm sure that is quite a factor! I hear there's quite the intra-college rivalry when it comes to sports, for instance...Not sure I'd be quite good enough to join a college tennis team, but you never know...

    How's the job hunt going in the meantime?
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    (Original post by SebCross)
    You mention a seven term course - how would that stack up in terms of the number of complete academic years you would do, then? I don't quite grasp how that would be organised, you see.

    Regarding your comment on tribalism, I'm sure that is quite a factor! I hear there's quite the intra-college rivalry when it comes to sports, for instance...Not sure I'd be quite good enough to join a college tennis team, but you never know...

    How's the job hunt going in the meantime?[/FONT]
    The 7 term course basically means you join the first years in Trinity Term, after they have done Law Moderations. So you then start finals work at the same time they have started it. At colleges other than Harris Manchester, you join at the beginning of second year, but have to do 7 terms work in 6 so it's quite hard. 7 terms means you are at the same pace as all other lawyers so it's a little bit easier.

    Tribalism especially prominent at Keble as we have a handy rugby side. The top few colleges can get quite aggressive when it comes to the business end of Cuppers!

    Job hunt going alright. Not a lot of response back about stuff yet, but sending off a few applications a day so we shall see. Just job hunting in the garden and sunshine at the moment, so it's not so bad!
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    (Original post by pinkpenguin)
    The 7 term course basically means you join the first years in Trinity Term, after they have done Law Moderations. So you then start finals work at the same time they have started it. At colleges other than Harris Manchester, you join at the beginning of second year, but have to do 7 terms work in 6 so it's quite hard. 7 terms means you are at the same pace as all other lawyers so it's a little bit easier.

    Tribalism especially prominent at Keble as we have a handy rugby side. The top few colleges can get quite aggressive when it comes to the business end of Cuppers!

    Job hunt going alright. Not a lot of response back about stuff yet, but sending off a few applications a day so we shall see. Just job hunting in the garden and sunshine at the moment, so it's not so bad!
    Yes the weather's fabulous at the moment, is it not? Unfortunately my wifi signal thingy doesn't extend outside into my garden, so I'm cooped in my bedroom when writing this. Have been reading Michael Burleigh's The Third Reich in the garden thusfar today, though. Glorious. I do object to ants and flies and things that seem to want to land on my knees the whole time, but I try to ignore them. Besides, when you're being blown away by the magisterial analysis of someone like Burleigh, such things are suddenly rendered moot.
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    Wait so you've gone from claiming to be at UEA, Bristol or wherever else people were catching you out on on other threads to suddenly being at Oxford?

    Seb Cross I think you have some mental issues.
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    Having decided to add up (with weightings) my Part A marks, I discover I am 1 mark off a first. Had I been offered 60 (gets me onto 4-year course) at the start of Trinity I would have taken it and ran, so I should be pleased... but it's still a little annoying
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