'God was testing my faith,' says Miss California
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Re: 'God was testing my faith,' says Miss CaliforniaAccording to Islam, Mormonism, etc, a man may - if certain conditions are met - marry more than one woman so you're definition of what constitutes a 'religious union' is flawed.(Original post by Cover Drive)
They may be non-religious, but their union (man and woman) is not unreligious and so it's fine
You, on the basis of your religious views, think it's 'one man, one woman'; Muslims regard polygamous marriages in certain conditions as religiously acceptable; some religious people believe any loving union between two people - female or male, is religiously correct.
Once again, you don't have a monopoly on what is 'religious' or 'right'.
Irrelevant.(Original post by Cover Drive)
Not many agree with that way of thinking.
What vested interest?(Original post by Cover Drive)
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Re: 'God was testing my faith,' says Miss CaliforniaPut forward an actual argument rather than making petty comments.(Original post by Cover Drive)
You're clearly clinging onto anyone who is against this woman just so you can feel some support.
That's your opinion.(Original post by Cover Drive)
Being against Black and White marriage is not the same thing as anti gay marriage.
Not all religions agree with that view, so you're opinion is biased.(Original post by Cover Drive)
In God's eyes, all races are equal
The Mormon Church officialy did not till they were forced to change their views by the federal government in 1979.
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Re: 'God was testing my faith,' says Miss California"being gay is different" doesn't sound like reasoning to me. The "it just is" philosophy is the one which lurks at the heart of all forms of bigotry.(Original post by Cover Drive)
Being against Black and White marriage is not the same thing as anti gay marriage. In God's eyes, all races are equal, being gay is different. Don't kid yourself,denial isn't healthy. -
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Re: 'God was testing my faith,' says Miss CaliforniaWhere did you get that from?(Original post by ThatThing)
What about civil marriages? That's not religious.
Plus, if marriage is always religious, why do you not object to non-religious heterosexual people getting married?
Thirdly, neither you nor anyone else has a monopoly over 'religion'. While you may regard homosexuality a sin for religious reasons, there are many religious people - hetero and gay - who believe that marriage can and ought to be extended to gay couples.
And where did I say I have a 'monopoly over religion'.
I don't think that it should be restricted to heterosexual couples, because that would be going against free choice- but I don't know why a gay couple would want to involve themselves in something which condemns homosexuality:
Leviticus 20
"If a man lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination and they shall surely be put to death."
etc.
Civil Partnership gave gay couples the same rights as marriage- the only reason I can think of for them to fight to call it 'marriage' is out of principle.
But whatever, let's have a party.
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Re: 'God was testing my faith,' says Miss CaliforniaI personally am very much in support of gay marriage, but I still don't understand why everyone's making such a big deal of this: a beauty pageant contestant is closed-minded and brainwashed by her religion, as uneducated people tend to be. Is anyone surprised? She's still entitled to her opinion, regardless of whether or not you agree with it.
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Re: 'God was testing my faith,' says Miss CaliforniaThen I shouldn't have listened to whoever it was on here who said that one of the things religion has contributed to society is the act of marriage...(Original post by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher)
Marriage isn't a religious thing and most definitely pre-dates Christianity.
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Re: 'God was testing my faith,' says Miss CaliforniaI get what your saying. But what if people sad you and your partner of choice had to choose "civil partnership" because of the colour of your eyes, or your accent? Marriage is not something restricted to the church, and not something that has to follow church dogma. It is a secular tradition that everyone should be able to enjoy if they choose to. It is demeaning for gay people to not be allowed to "marry" officially, just as it was demeaning for black people to only be allowed to drink from certain water fountains, sit on certain seats in buses etc(Original post by Ehmo)
Where did you get that from?
Civil Partnership gave gay couples the same rights as marriage- the only reason I can think of for them to fight to call it 'marriage' is out of principle. -
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Re: 'God was testing my faith,' says Miss CaliforniaYou're right.(Original post by DisgruntledMoth)
ThatThing, Cover Drive is clearly a troll.
Either way, you'll probably find a more fulfilling debate in the theology forum.
Lol.(Original post by DisgruntledMoth)
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Re: 'God was testing my faith,' says Miss CaliforniaI think it originated in ancient Greece but even back then it was traditionally between a man and woman so you were kinda right!(Original post by Ehmo)
Then I shouldn't have listened to whoever it was on here who said that one of the things religion has contributed to society is the act of marriage...
Misinformation is the root of all evil
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Re: 'God was testing my faith,' says Miss CaliforniaI don't agree with bestiality. I also don't believe in sex with 9 year old children. We don't have a lot in common.(Original post by MGIL)
suck off your dog ****.
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Re: 'God was testing my faith,' says Miss CaliforniaJesus won't be happy either. I bet your mummy's proud.(Original post by PurpleMonkeyDishwasher)
Will do, no peeking for you though or it's straight to Jahannam.
also it's not ''our god'', Allah is just Arabic for god.
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Re: 'God was testing my faith,' says Miss CaliforniaYes in certain faiths polygamy is fine under certain cirumstances. These countries practise it accordingly. Now find me a faith which, in certain conditions, permits a man to take it up the bum from another man(Original post by ThatThing)
According to Islam, Mormonism, etc, a man may - if certain conditions are met - marry more than one woman so you're definition of what constitutes a 'religious union' is flawed.
You, on the basis of your religious views, think it's 'one man, one woman'; Muslims regard polygamous marriages in certain conditions as religiously acceptable; some religious people believe any loving union between two people - female or male, is religiously correct. Find me a scripture, go on? Exactly.
It's clear what you're trying to do. Trying to broaden the gay marriage debate to include mixed race marriage, polygamy e.t.c when that is entirely different. Hey why not add in Man marrying Animal too?
