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Original post by Pinball_heart
Where did you get that ranking from?!
Royal Holloway is definitely a 30-40th place ranked uni.


I think he means, Based on 88th in the world, Its the 13th Uk University In that list.
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Reply 41
Original post by Krz
I'd say it has a big intake because of how 'general' it is so to speak and the ease of employability with a management degree.

I'm just saying it's harder than what people think it is, the people I quoted have clearly never been part of such a course. I mean to claim History, French etc are harder or more respected than Management is ridiculous and untrue.


Its probably harder to DO than some people think it is - i'll give you that. To get into: you said its harder to get into...sorry but its not. I'd say it is equally difficult to get into as most degrees. Probably harder to get into than things like drama. And probably easier than a couple...the ones you have to interview for and those you need certain A levels to do.
Reply 42
Original post by Krz
I know this is an old thread but lmao who are you kidding? Management at Rhul has a better rep than all of those you listed, it's also harder to get a place in than something like French or English.

You're clueless lol



Another brain dead post. I guarantee it's more challenging than something like history, music or English. You have no idea what you're talking about.


You're an idiot. The end.
Reply 43
Original post by kat2pult
You're an idiot. The end.


So you couldn't think of any decent counter to what I said? Good game, next time try to make sense otherwise you look like a bitter fool.
Reply 44
Original post by Krz
So you couldn't think of any decent counter to what I said? Good game, next time try to make sense otherwise you look like a bitter fool.


From my experience studying there, management is the butt of all jokes, and in many cases it does seem to be a weaker course, depsite all the money the University pumps into it, probably more to do with the amount of money that foreign students, who in the majority study management bring into the Uni.
Overall, and bear in mind I lived with a management student and friends with many for my duration, management did seem like an easier course, in terms of workload and academic credibility.
For one thing, I saw a past paper question for an ethics course in management which asked 'Is it wrong to sleep with your boss?'.
In general it really is not considered to be to the same standard as the English, History, Physics, and Classics departments, who actually have some world class lecturers, and the standard of student seems to be better in these departments anyway.
Reply 45
Original post by DoubleB
From my experience studying there, management is the butt of all jokes, and in many cases it does seem to be a weaker course, depsite all the money the University pumps into it, probably more to do with the amount of money that foreign students, who in the majority study management bring into the Uni.
Overall, and bear in mind I lived with a management student and friends with many for my duration, management did seem like an easier course, in terms of workload and academic credibility.
For one thing, I saw a past paper question for an ethics course in management which asked 'Is it wrong to sleep with your boss?'.
In general it really is not considered to be to the same standard as the English, History, Physics, and Classics departments, who actually have some world class lecturers, and the standard of student seems to be better in these departments anyway.


Once again you haven't actually been in a Management course and can't judge. I could argue that History and English are useless basic subjects and people merely take them so they can get a degree in something easy. I mean, at least management is relevant today whereas History is a free pass into a degree and English honestly couldn't get more pointless after A levels.

I have a friend doing History who tells me it's much easier than he expected.
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Reply 46
Original post by Krz
Once again you haven't actually been in a Management course and can't judge. I could argue that History and English are useless basic subjects and people merely take them so they can get a degree in something easy. I mean, at least management is relevant today whereas History is a free pass into a degree and English honestly couldn't get more pointless after A levels.

I have a friend doing History who tells me it's much easier than he expected.


Your an actual arse and merely just confirming that many management students are indeed idiots. I cant make base generalisations like you just did you mean? No one can really argue that English and History are useless degrees unless you are an idiot...oh wait, you are. If you were doing a science degree then perhaps you may have a point about the merits and comparisons of each course then we perhaps might have a decent debate. Management is a running joke around campus for all other subjects, have you not seen the grafitti in bedford library which points to toilet paper and says 'Get your management degree here'. Oh well have fun working in McDonalds, douche!
Reply 47
Ha ha just seen an old post of yours asking
'The third year of the accounting specialized course says 'International Accounting & Finance'

Do these international modules mean we have to study abroad, or is it just learning about accounting on an international scale?'

Ha ha actual idiot.
Reply 48
Original post by Krz
Once again you haven't actually been in a Management course and can't judge. I could argue that History and English are useless basic subjects and people merely take them so they can get a degree in something easy. I mean, at least management is relevant today whereas History is a free pass into a degree and English honestly couldn't get more pointless after A levels.

I have a friend doing History who tells me it's much easier than he expected.


Hi tip for the future as you are obviously wanting to go into management. Don't talk down other degrees to talk your's up you never know what degree the person you are talking to has got.

Universtiy is about gaining skills. Yeh I may never use the historical facts I learn again once I graduate but I think you'll find the ability to evaluate sources of information and accuaracy, deconstruct and create arguments and work independantly whilst engaging with challenging theoretical problems will stand me in good stead. History is actually highly respected by employers and as a management student surely you'll know all about making use of the skills employees have. History is not a 'freepass into a degree' and if your are really as ignorant as you come across then I wish you luck in your future endevours as you clearly think in far to linear a way to ever come up with an origional approach.
Reply 49
Original post by DoubleB
Your an actual arse and merely just confirming that many management students are indeed idiots. I cant make base generalisations like you just did you mean? No one can really argue that English and History are useless degrees unless you are an idiot...oh wait, you are. If you were doing a science degree then perhaps you may have a point about the merits and comparisons of each course then we perhaps might have a decent debate. Management is a running joke around campus for all other subjects, have you not seen the grafitti in bedford library which points to toilet paper and says 'Get your management degree here'. Oh well have fun working in McDonalds, douche!


Lmao ok. If you say Management is a joke, then I'll say your subjects (English/History?) are too. Management has one of the highest employability rates making your negative points invalid. Theres no way you can judge what's easy or hard unless you take the full course, anyone can look at an assignment from a module that looks easy and say' that course is too easy'.

P.S, Your mcdonalds statement proves that you're an idiot :wink:

Gotta love trolls, they think can claim other departments are a joke, but if their own is criticized they're a baby who's lost their dummy. Hilarious.
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Reply 50
If you had any attention you would notice you sought to attack other degrees first, rather than me attacking management. Look at university courses across the board and management is known to not be a classical and traditional course. If we look at politics, law, journalism you will notice the vast majority of successful people have traditional subjects, whether it be in the arts (like those you deride, English, History and Languages) or the sciences, rather than business or management. How many successful bankers do you think would have management degrees, not many is the answer.
The way I look at it, I am interested in history, where do the best academics and specialists work? Thats right in university. Where do the best managers and business people work? In business where they make money, not at universities. For many of your courses apparently the lecturers barely speak English, and if you look at the rankings management simply is not as well respected as English, History and Physics for example. One of the reasons some have given for Royal Holloway's slip down the rankings is because they have begun to slip down the overall rankings (from 12th when I applied with three A's at A-Level) to its current ranking is because of the money and concentration it now applies to the Management department rather than the Universities traditional stronger subjects.
History really is anything but irrelevant by the way my friend, and frankly anyone who suggests it is an ignorant idiot, but there you go.
Im anything but a troll, just providing the facts. Talking of facts, got any evidence to suggest that Management really does have the highest employability rate? It may be true I suppose, but most of these statistics dont take into account that many do in fact get jobs after univeirsty not in graduate jobs, but in retail and indeed in Fast-Food service.
Reply 51
The minute you claimed Management was a 'joke' made me think you were a troll making your argument invalid to me. There's no way any full degree course at Rhul would truly be that easy for you to make remarks like you did. And honestly it's common knowledge as to how employable it is.

And as for the bad English statement, 6/7 of my lecturers were British (1 Canadian) and their English was fine, only 1 lecturer was foreign. So once again I have no idea who's telling you these ridiculous things.

Seriously I don't think anything you said towards Management was a fact, other than your arguments defending History.
Original post by adilmorrison
Better than London Met, but not as good as Oxford...


doesn't that apply to pretty much every university in the UK?!!
Reply 53
full of stupid people. the girlfriend went there. her friends were thick as ****.
Reply 54
Original post by Krz
The minute you claimed Management was a 'joke' made me think you were a troll making your argument invalid to me. There's no way any full degree course at Rhul would truly be that easy for you to make remarks like you did. And honestly it's common knowledge as to how employable it is.

And as for the bad English statement, 6/7 of my lecturers were British (1 Canadian) and their English was fine, only 1 lecturer was foreign. So once again I have no idea who's telling you these ridiculous things.

Seriously I don't think anything you said towards Management was a fact, other than your arguments defending History.


Again I did not call the course a joke, merely that it was a running joke on campus about the relative easiness of the course, which it is. By the way not sure you will go far in any level of business if anyone who disagrees with you, you regard as a troll. Oh common knowledge well thats brilliant isnt it. Its common knowledge that management is an easier course on campus.
The people telling me these things are management students who study the course, and have been for three years. What year are you even in? If you were to walk around campus tomorrow and ask people what the easiest course people on campus did, it would be management or media arts, 75% of the time I reckon.
It is a fact moreover, that in each year history had more words to write each year by a majority of over 5,000 words and in second year had more exams. These are facts, like the fact that in most cases management is not regarded to the same caliber as traditional academic subjects, like the ones that you seek to deride.
Reply 55
Original post by jamie.p
full of stupid people. the girlfriend went there. her friends were thick as ****.


Probably studied management or media...
Reply 56
Original post by DoubleB
Probably studied management or media...


english students
history
languages
joint honours
blah blah blah,

they're all pretentious wasters who really were thick as ****.
Reply 57
Original post by jamie.p
english students
history


they're all pretentious wasters who really were thick as ****.


Ouch DoubleB.
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Reply 58
Original post by DoubleB
Again I did not call the course a joke, merely that it was a running joke on campus about the relative easiness of the course, which it is. By the way not sure you will go far in any level of business if anyone who disagrees with you, you regard as a troll. Oh common knowledge well thats brilliant isnt it. Its common knowledge that management is an easier course on campus.
The people telling me these things are management students who study the course, and have been for three years. What year are you even in? If you were to walk around campus tomorrow and ask people what the easiest course people on campus did, it would be management or media arts, 75% of the time I reckon.
It is a fact moreover, that in each year history had more words to write each year by a majority of over 5,000 words and in second year had more exams. These are facts, like the fact that in most cases management is not regarded to the same caliber as traditional academic subjects, like the ones that you seek to deride.


A course being claimed easy is infact, an opinion.

It's impossible to prove which course is easiest unless you survey. Management involves number work with accounting/stats, I doubt History has anything like accounting in it and so if it's difficult in it's own way then there's no way you can compare the two, all down to opinion and subjective to the individual.

Or of course, we could assume all History students are thick because of what jamie-p just claimed.
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It's better, slightly, than other comparable London universities like Queen Mary, City, Brunel, Goldsmiths, etc.

Far better than any of the post-1992 universities.

It's not as good as the likes of UCL or King's, though.

I would've gone to Royal Holloway, but they don't have a law school. :angry:

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