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Hitler was NOT a Christian

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cabbaman98

I think, I could be wrong, but I think it was mainly Catholicism that he was trying to abolish, as opposed to all Christianity.
Like I said I could be wrong. But I think most of the disputes were with the Catholic church, and not Protestant.

No, he was not mainly trying to abolish Catholiscism at all.

People are corrupt. Just because they put their name to a religion does not mean that religion is corrupt.

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shev0

Norfolkadam

Didn't God kill millions?

Yes, that was many years before the birth of Christ. But with Christ was brought compassion and mercy to mankind.

Also, that has got heehaw to do with this thread.

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cabbaman98

shev0

Utter rubbish mate. Just because you believe in God doesnt make you a CHristian. Now, before you go off on a rant about that let me say that God asks for us to believe in Jesus Christ and REPENT from our sins and TURN from our wicked ways and into NEW LIFE. If you just believe in God that doesnt matter at all. Even the devil believes in God. Does that change anything? No.

Hitler never went to heaven. Yes, I believe God can forgive and bring someone back from darkness like Hitler. But he never stopped his brutality and also took his own life. So, no. He was not a Christian.

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Look I didn't bother going in to it in much detail cuz I didn't think I had to. But yeah I know the devil believes in god and all that. Of course he does, otherwise he wouldn't exist. But Hitler can still do all the **** he did and still repent etc. Fair enough it's to quite an extreme scale. If I was a Christian and I lied to someone, I would probably be sorry for it etc, but I'd still probably just lie again.
Not to mention there are so many denominations of Christianity, he was obviously forming his own specific twist on things. Fair enough had he tried to be part of one of the many main denominations then his ideals and actions would not have fitted in. But it all depends on your interpretation of Christianity and the bible. People who talk about Christianity and their beliefs as a whole are nearly always going to be wrong because no doubt somewhere an interpretation of Christianity will do things differently.
It's kinda early so I may not have really worded this right but yeah.

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cabbaman98

shev0

People are corrupt. Just because they put their name to a religion does not mean that religion is corrupt.

Did I ever say that? :s-smilie:

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shev0

moreiniho

Hitler perceived himself to be a Christian, just like everyone else who is a Christian does. You can't dispute that.

Possibly, but when you read the bible it categorically tells you that Hitler was not a Christian.

My main point really is. Just because one says that they are a Christian and they follow beliefs etc does NOT mean they are.

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shev0

cabbaman98

Did I ever say that? :s-smilie:

No, it was just an extra thought I had

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username251676

shev0

Man! I am so angry. Referring to a post yesterday about Islam soon being the most dominant religion on earth it came up that Hitler was a Christian.

Doesnt matter how much you think he was a Christian. HE WAS NOT! He killed millions. There is nowhere in Christianity for that. Jesus said "Whoever is not for me is against me". Jesus was a preacher of Good News and Eternal life NOT ethnic cleansing. Ok! Also, I very much doubt that our 'christian leaders Blair and Bush' are Christians either.

So, it does not matter a toss what Hitler said or what anyone else says. HE WAS NOT A CHRISTIAN. Neither was the many peoples who 'raped and pillaged native Americans'. Just because they may have said and done Christian things doesnt mean they were.

So, before you comment, get your facts right. Or dont bother.

I think the Nazis and Hitler intended to implement a weird pagan religion actually, there's a page about it on wikipedia somewhere

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cabbaman98

shev0

No, it was just an extra thought I had

Oh haha ok then.
Got confused there.

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shev0

HexagonalBolts

I think the Nazis and Hitler intended to implement a weird pagan religion actually, there's a page about it on wikipedia somewhere

Yeah I am not surprised. At least you are not arguing that he was a CHristian! I can believe how people can think that when he was such a tosser.

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Failed123

Of course Bin Laden and those suicide bombers are bloody Muslims!

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A is for Awesome

shev0

You know, many fundamentalist Christians would probably argue that YOU aren't a proper Christian, for some silly nitpick reason found in the bible.

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shev0

Failed123

Of course Bin Laden and those suicide bombers are bloody Muslims!

Absolutely not!

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shev0

A is for Awesome

You know, many fundamentalist Christians would probably argue that YOU aren't a proper Christian, for some silly nitpick reason found in the bible.

Maybe. But we are not talking about me mate.

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Failed123

shev0

Absolutely not!

Don't be silly, they are. Oh I get it, those suicide bombers just killed themselves and others for a laugh? Read the scriptures!

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King4eva

The claim is sometimes made that Hitler was a Christian - a Roman Catholic until the day he died. In fact, Hitler rejected Christianity.

The book Hitler's Secret Conversations 1941-1944 published by Farrar, Straus and Young, Inc.first edition, 1953, contains definitive proof of Hitler's real views. The book was published in Britain under the title, _Hitler's Table Talk 1941-1944, which title was used for the Oxford University Press paperback edition in the United States.

All of these are quotes from Adolf Hitler:

Night of 11th-12th July, 1941:

National Socialism and religion cannot exist together.... The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.... Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things.

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jacketpotato

What you really mean is that Hitler doesn't fit your interpretation of "Christian".

To be fair, Christianity (just like Islam) has been used to justify racism, sexism and generally killing people for most of its history; and has been used as a method of social control. Its only really in the last 200years that Christianity and Islam have been re-interpreted into something loving and peaceful in order to fit social trends.

It is amazing how many myths surround Hitler (for instance this myth that Hitler was a vegetarian), and how many people try to associate things with Hitler to make a point.

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shev0

MSB

Jesus said 'Love your neighbour', not 'Invade your neighbour'.

Amen!

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A is for Awesome

Failed123

Don't be silly, they are. Oh I get it, those suicide bombers just killed themselves and others for a laugh? Read the scriptures!

The point is that murder is quite significantly forbidden in Islam. Therefore their actions were significantly un-Islamic. Whether this means they weren't Muslims themselves is an opinion often formed from this fact.

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shev0

England Captain

Who even cares?

Many people care. Why? Because if people are of the oppinion that Hitler and many other tyrants were Christian, that therefore gives Christianity a bad name. And Christianity doesnt need that. So, instead of being an idiot and just commenting "Who cares?", actually think.