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Seriously, another racist blaming everyone but themselves. You can't generalise from a bunch of criminals to a whole populations.

Neo Con
I am sure there a millions of black people who do not. But looking at the stats, most the problems in the US are due to minority crime. Obama on his own cannot account for the whole minority population. Stats paint a very disturbing picture

So alot of poor black people commit crime, so what? It doesn't mean every black person is a criminal. Not only that but crime is a human construct so to say that crime is due to biology is wrong.

Atleast your not blaming the jews saying that I bet you do.

P.S. At the end of the day minorties made america what it is today.
P.P.S. Also, there is no genetic evidence that black people are significantly different to white people.
Neo Con
Yes but the conseuqences will be America will go down the toilet.


It went down the toilet in the 2000 presidential 'election'.

If I didn't think you were trolling I'd neg rep you.
Reply 62
BeanofJelly
Thinking any race is inherently superior to any other race is racist dear.

You're deciding things about people based upon the colour of their skin, not based upon their circumstances, merits, and with little regard to socioeconomic factors.

You are racist. I presume you see black people around you who are equally educated and "civilised" as you are and think secretly to yourself that they are more prone to violence and have a lazy attitude because they're a darker shade?
I presume that if you were on a jury trialling a black man, this idea that you have that he's more likely to have committed a crime because he is black will affect the verdict you come to yes?
And yet you deny that racism exists in the US judicial system.


I have told u already the jury is made of many races, sometimes people like you just look for loopholes to prove your point even when there are none :rolleyes:

Regardin "socioeconomic factors" I have said east asians in povery commit less crime than blacks. All factors adjusted for, blacks still commit more crime. FACT. Please read the FBI site you are wasting my time.

Regarding the bit in bold, not really. It will all be clear from dna testing, witnesses e.t.c :smile:
Reply 63
Simplicity
Seriously, another racist blaming everyone but themselves. You can't generalise from a bunch of criminals to a whole populations.


So alot of poor black people commit crime, so what? It doesn't mean every black person is a criminal. Not only that but crime is a human construct so to say that crime is due to biology is wrong.

Atleast your not blaming the jews saying that I bet you do.

P.S. At the end of the day minorties made america what it is today.
P.P.S. Also, there is no genetic evidence that black people are significantly different to white people.


Actually the Jewish people have contributed to the development of the country, I don't care if their population increases 20 fold because they believe in democracy, freedom and law.

Alot of the jews are from european countries and have similar values.
Neo Con
I have told u already the jury is made of many races, sometimes people like you just look for loopholes to prove your point even when there are none :rolleyes:

Regardin "socioeconomic factors" I have said east asians in povery commit less crime than blacks. All factors adjusted for, blacks still commit more crime. FACT. Please read the FBI site you are wasting my time.

Regarding the bit in bold, not really. It will all be clear from dna testing, witnesses e.t.c :smile:


Because there's never any doubt or room for discretion in any court case?

Even with a mixed jury, whites are the majority, so unless intentionally extra-black juries are selected for black accused (as in the case of OJ Simpson, which was in fact a very unfair trial - issues concerning race allowed him to walk free), there is still plenty of room for racism if the jury is that way inclined.

Besides, the majority of judges in many areas of the states are white. And judges are the ones who decide the sentence. It is a fact that a black person convicted of the same crime as a white person is likely to receive a heavier sentence.

Whereas, there is no genetic evidence to suggest that blacks are in any way inferior or more violent than whites (why don't you link to some of your so-called studies which indicate otherwise so we can have a look at them?). Where a black person enjoys the same conditions of wealth and opportunity as a white person, they are no more likely to commit crime.

As for asians, I would guess that this is to do with culture as opposed to race. No race is inherently morally higher or lower than any other. All healthy human beings of all races experience the same levels of empathy, have the same human community instinct.
Neo Con
Actually the Jewish people have contributed to the development of the country, I don't care if their population increases 20 fold because they believe in democracy, freedom and law.

Alot of the jews are from european countries and have similar values.


but they are religious - and is that what you want in your society? religion.


I think not
Reply 66
maze.e
You must be a retard don't you know your American history black, Hispanic and white people made America what it is today. I am not going to expand on this topic because clearly your an idiot.


You're not going to expand on this topic because you CAN'T.

Intellectually, African-Americans (and Mestizo-Americans) have contributed very little to America. Unless of course you consider picking plants under the guidance of the white man a great "intellectual" contribution. If indeed you do, I hate to think what you think of today's generation of black Americans - antique farm equipment?
Imagine a situation where a couple (of aliens I might add) adopt a little white kid and a little black kid. The couple themselves are fluorescent green (and not human) so that neither child can associate racially with them. The children are raised under the exact same conditions because they attend a school where 50% are black and 50% are white, and there is no racism of any kind. Do you honestly believe the black child, simply because they are black will have lower moral standards than the white child, be more violent, and more likely to commit crime?
Holding such a belief is not only scientifically baseless, its also NASTY, and reflects the same lack of empathy and inmorality that you would accuse black people of possessing inherently.
Reply 68
i just feel sorry the red indians
Reply 69
Neo Con
You're an idiot. But thanks for raising this point. Who is responsible for our crime?

Check out the FBI site or US defense department for racial profiling on crime. Poverty cannot be the reason as poor asians do not commit as much crime as blacks.

Police and the justice system are not biased against minorities.
Crime Rates
Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder,
and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely
than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife.
Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white rate, and
Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate.
The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the percentage of
the population that is black and Hispanic.
Interracial Crime
Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving
blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.
Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Fortyfive
percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10 percent are
Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are
black.
Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against
a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.
Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated hate crimes
against whites than vice versa.
Gangs
Only 10 percent of youth gang members are white.
Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of youth gangs.
Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more likely.
Incarceration
Between 1980 and 2003 the US incarceration rate more than tripled, from 139
to 482 per 100,000, and the number of prisoners increased from 320,000 to 1.39
million.
Blacks are seven times more likely to be in prison than whites. Hispanics are
three times more likely.

Most Dangerous Cities in America:
1) Detroit-81% black, 10% white
2) St. Louis-51% black, 42% white
3)Flint-53% black, 40% white
4)Oakland-35% black, 23% white
5)Camden-53% black, 7% white
6) Birmingham-73% black, 23% white
7)North Charleston-49% black, 43% white
8) Memphis-61% black, 33% white
9) Richmond, Ca.- 36% black, 21% white
10) Cleveland- 51% black, 38% white

Notice any similarities between violent cities and racial makeup?


Another great post, Neocon. This will have these moron libtards wetting themselves. When are these idiots going to wake up to the cold hard facts? Race correlates much better (I believe the figure is 3 times more) than income.

To me, as an American minority that has lived in a predominantly African-American neighbourhood, I find it hilarious how liberal whites living in all-white communities can proclaim that all races are equal when it comes to crime, particularly when these liberal whites live some 4,000 miles away and have probably never spoken to a black American in their lives.
Reply 70
neocon
but they are religious - and is that what you want in your society? religion.


I think not


Jewish-Americans are extremely secular, what on earth are you talking about?

On an unrelated note, American Jews have contributed more to American sciences, entertainment, economics, acadaemia and pilanthropy than any other American ethnic group. And by a long margin. American Jews also have crime rates that dwarf East Asians, never mind whites or the far more criminal-inclined blacks. They're the model minority in pretty much every way. American definitely needs more Jews!
Reply 71
DSC
i just feel sorry the red indians


Please refrain from using racial slurs.

Today's Native Americans actually don't have it too bad. Free college admission, free land, special casino rights which practically rains money on them. What's to complain about? It's just a shame about the sky high level of alcoholism and drug abuse in the community...
Reply 72
ypo
Another great post, Neocon. This will have these moron libtards wetting themselves. When are these idiots going to wake up to the cold hard facts? Race correlates much better (I believe the figure is 3 times more) than income.

To me, as an American minority that has lived in a predominantly African-American neighbourhood, I find it hilarious how liberal whites living in all-white communities can proclaim that all races are equal when it comes to crime, particularly when these liberal whites live some 4,000 miles away and have probably never spoken to a black American in their lives.


Thanks mate. I hate how people try to deny these facts. They will do anything to disagree with you, from blaming the jury, to poverty e.t.c I do believe in equality for all races but that doesn't mean hiding from true crime facts or belittling the white contribution to America or distorting the contribution of blacks and latinos for political correctness sake.
Reply 73
Neo Con
No substance in what you say. If America had been an all black nation it would have been another Africa. If America had been an all hispanic population it would have been another Mexico. The magic ingredient was the european population which instilled discipline, european just laws, military advancement learned from colonial powers, the aim of providing global leadership like the UK, France did in the past.

Not just be another crime ridden, corrupt, poor healthcare, rubbish education system, waste of space like Africa or Mexico.


Fun quiz: What continent is spain on.
Reply 74
ypo
Jewish-Americans are extremely secular, what on earth are you talking about?

On an unrelated note, American Jews have contributed more to American sciences, entertainment, economics, acadaemia and pilanthropy than any other American ethnic group. And by a long margin. American Jews also have crime rates that dwarf East Asians, never mind whites or the far more criminal-inclined blacks. They're the model minority in pretty much every way. American definitely needs more Jews!


It's nice to see there are people out there who understand all this! That is how Jews indeed are, even when religious, their relationship with God is personal and not used to oppress other non jews. They have been role model citizens in the states. Have you heard of Al sharpton? He had a banner saying "hitler didn't finish the job" at the funeral of some black kid who was run over by a jew. Crown heights I think. A big riot happened. Obama is close to this guy as well as that racist pastor.
Reply 75
Neo Con
Yes but the conseuqences will be America will go down the toilet.

No one gives a ******* **** about your ******* ****** racist piece of crap country, piece off with your ******* america you ******* burger eating fat arse yank.
Reply 76
Simplicity
Seriously, another racist blaming everyone but themselves. You can't generalise from a bunch of criminals to a whole populations.


Oh no!! He's a raaaaaaaycist!!! Everybody hide!

Simplicity
So alot of poor black people commit crime, so what? It doesn't mean every black person is a criminal. Not only that but crime is a human construct so to say that crime is due to biology is wrong.


Uhhh do testosterone levels and cognitive abilities mean nothing to you?

Simplicity
P.S. At the end of the day minorties made america what it is today.


Yeah, a crime-ridden hellhole.

Simplicity
P.P.S. Also, there is no genetic evidence that black people are significantly different to white people.


:rofl: You just picked that out your ass. There are very significant differences between native Africans and native Europeans in (but certainly not limited to): testosterone levels, estrogen levels, bone density, susceptability to certain diseases, size of sexual organs, fat distribution, skin colour, ratio of fast-twitch: slow-twitch muscles, hair texture, cranial size, cranial shape, limb length as proportion of height and, most importantly, cognitive abilities.
Reply 77
ypo
:rofl: You just picked that out your ass. There are very significant differences between native Africans and native Europeans in (but certainly not limited to): testosterone levels, estrogen levels, bone density, susceptability to certain diseases, size of sexual organs, fat distribution, skin colour, ratio of fast-twitch: slow-twitch muscles, hair texture, cranial size, cranial shape, limb length as proportion of height and, most importantly, cognitive abilities.


Source?
Reply 78
Mithra
Fun quiz: What continent is spain on.


Europe. Incidentally almost all the rich and productive Latinos are of pure or predominant Spanish/European descent. The Latinos flooding America, however, are almost exclusively from Mestizo/Amerindian stock.
Reply 79
Mithra
Source?


All are well-documented. Which do you refute?

Let's see your sources showing there are no racial differences between whites and blacks. How do you explain the physically obvious - skin colour, hair texture, bone structure, fat distribution, limb size?

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