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Would somebody be so kind as to help us out? (projectile motion)

Hey everybody, came across a question on projectiles and I'm stumped. Spent ages and can't work it out.

A projectile is fired at 150 m/s and has a range of 1500m. What are the possible angles of elevation from horizontal?

Greatly appreciated if somebody could walk me through it. + rep tomorrow.
Reply 1
I've been working on it since my first post and I still can't find it. I won't have internet access in an hour until my exam so if you can be assed I'd be so grateful.
Reply 2
Try this http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/Hbase/trajs.html#tra15
Actually that doesn't really answer your question, I couldn't work out out either:confused: Is there no other information like flight time?
Reply 3
Nope. I could work it out if there was, but that's all it gives. range 1200m initial velocity 150m/s
Reply 4
1200m or 1500m?

Horizontal range = (v^2 * sin[2x])/g

where x is the angle of projection.

You can rearrange and solve for x.
Reply 5
1200m. Uh could you explain how you got range = V^2*sin(2x)/g?

ty
Reply 6
You need to work out the time of flight in terms of the sins and cos's using the y equation and then put that time into the x equation. Like so:

Let the angle = a

y = ut + 0.5at^2
y = 150t sina - 0.5gt^5 = 0 when the projectile hits the ground

hence t = (300 sina) / (g)

x = ut + 0.5at^2
x = 150t cosa

1500 = 150(300)sina.cosa / g

sina.cosa = 1500g / 45000
0.5 sin (2a) = 1500g / 45000 (Using a mathematics identity)
2a = sin-1 (3000g / 45000)
a = 0.5 sin-1 (3000g / 45000)
a = 20.4 degrees

I doubt a physicist would be expected to solve that equation.
Reply 7
Ry4n11
You need to work out the time of flight in terms of the sins and cos's using the y equation and then put that time into the x equation. Like so:

Let the angle = a

y = ut + 0.5at^2
y = 150t sina - 0.5gt^5 = 0 when the projectile hits the ground

hence t = (300 sina) / (g)

x = ut + 0.5at^2
x = 150t



1500 = 150(300)sina / g

a = sin-1 (1500g / 45000) = 19 degrees


Wouldn't you need to resolve the initial velocity into its horizontal and vertical components to do it like this?

Edit: actually, I see what you've done. Got confused by 'a' representing two different things.
Reply 8
FatNoel
Wouldn't you need to resolve the initial velocity into its horizontal and vertical components to do it like this?


Oh my mistake, i took the y component and forget the x component.

I'll edit my post
Reply 9
Ry4n11
You need to work out the time of flight in terms of the sins and cos's using the y equation and then put that time into the x equation. Like so:

Let the angle = a

y = ut + 0.5at^2
y = 150t sina - 0.5gt^5 = 0 when the projectile hits the ground

hence t = (300 sina) / (g)

x = ut + 0.5at^2
x = 150t cosa

1500 = 150(300)sina.cosa / g

sina.cosa = 1500g / 45000
0.5 sin (2a) = 1500g / 45000 (Using a mathematics identity)
2a = sin-1 (3000g / 45000)
a = 0.5 sin-1 (3000g / 45000)
a = 20.4 degrees

I doubt a physicist would be expected to solve that equation.


According to my book the angle is 15 degrees, although it's been wrong before. The question was apparantly on a past paper, so... I still don't really understand tbh but thanks for your effort. + rep for everybody who helped in the next few days. Argh, so much to learn in so liittle time...
Reply 10
Captain Skids
According to my book the angle is 15 degrees, although it's been wrong before. The question was apparantly on a past paper, so... I still don't really understand tbh but thanks for your effort. + rep for everybody who helped in the next few days. Argh, so much to learn in so liittle time...


His working is with the range of 1500m.

If you do the same thing with 1200m the angle comes out as around 15 degrees.

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