[daniel_williams]

Repeal of B132 - Railways bill, Conservative

BE IT ENACTED by The Queen's most Excellent Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Commons in this present Parliament assembled, in accordance with the provisions of the Parliament Acts 1911 and 1949, and by the authority of the same, as follows:-

1) All sections of the Nationalisation of Railways Bill and any other legislation referring to Nationalisation of Railways shall be repealed with immediate effect.

2) We will revert to the system before this bill. This involves Franchising. First tenders are to start February 2010, for Rail Franchises

[Nothos]

Oh, how bloody pathetic.

[Acaila]

So after spending most of this term so far whining about bureaucratic nonsense, the Tories are now continuing to avoid any policy-making that might actually make a difference and instead wasting their time on petty childish vengeful attempts at repealing an excellent piece of legislation?

[DayneD89]

It was always going to happen to be fair.

[Nothos]

(Original post by DayneD89)
It was always going to happen to be fair.

Doesn't mean we shouldn't fight it tooth and claw, though.

[DayneD89]

(Original post by BruceTaylor)
Doesn't mean we shouldn't fight it tooth and claw, though.

Well yes, and of course the Lib Dems will stand by our prior commitment to that Bill. just seems that the Tories cant get over that defeat and move on.

[Nothos]

(Original post by DayneD89)
Well yes, and of course the Lib Dems will stand by our prior commitment to that Bill. just seems that the Tories cant get over that defeat and move on.

Seems a common theme with them, tbqh.

[Matthew_Lowson]

Where a party has a right to put forward legislation that it believes to be right and true, and the Conservative Party believe this to be legislation which is in the true interest of the people of Britain. Considering it was a priority of the Hon. Gentleman to ensure 'That Britain never goes back to the days of the dark ages under National Rail' as Deputy Prime Minister then its amazing his U-Turn.

[Democracy]

Not on your life.

[Matthew_Lowson]

(Original post by BruceTaylor)
Seems a common theme with them, tbqh.

So cheating, and treachery is a common theme with the Front tbqh.

And this is coming from a man who described me as a man of conviction, desperately needed in politics.

[Acaila]

(Original post by Matthew_Lowson)
Where a party has a right to put forward legislation that it believes to be right and true, and the Conservative Party believe this to be legislation which is in the true interest of the people of Britain. Considering it was a priority of the Hon. Gentleman to ensure 'That Britain never goes back to the days of the dark ages under National Rail' as Deputy Prime Minister then its amazing his U-Turn.

Alternatively, you're standing in the name of progress by trying to stymy bills that passed in something that is only going to turn into childish tit for tat behaviour rather than trying to do anything for the people of Britain.

[Magnum Opus]

De-nationalising public services only seves to limit the ability of the population to move around, and liberal choice. It stagnates the economy.

[Adorno]

This will be the only time I quote Ian Paisley:

NEVER! NEVER! NEVER!

[Nothos]

(Original post by Matthew_Lowson)
So cheating, and treachery is a common theme with the Front tbqh.

And this is coming from a man who described me as a man of conviction, desperately needed in politics.

Treachery? Oh yes, because a coalition having a greater number of seats and thus a bigger mandate is treacherous.

And when on earth did I say anything of the sort?

[Birchington]

Only nationalising the railways will allow for widespread improvements to be made and consistent pricing to be implemented. Various rail franchises as part of a privatised network often have their own vested interests and this causes consultation periods to take far longer than they should. If we want a railway network fit for the 21st century, we must maintain a nationalised network.

[Collingwood]

(Original post by Magnum Opus)
De-nationalising public services only seves to limit the ability of the population to move around, and liberal choice. It stagnates the economy.

(Original post by Birchington)
Only nationalising the railways will allow for widespread improvements to be made and consistent pricing to be implemented. Various rail franchises as part of a privatised network often have their own vested interests and this causes consultation periods to take far longer than they should. If we want a railway network fit for the 21st century, we must maintain a nationalised network.

But what do the facts matter...

[Birchington]

Government investment can be distributed with one company controlling the railway network.

[Matthew_Lowson]

Bruce

you are a man of conviction, something we desperately need in this modern era of career politicians.

Bruce

[Adorno]

(Original post by Collingwood)


But what do the facts matter...

Those "facts" are misleading. There was a boom in the 60s and 70s in car ownership which took people off the railways on onto the motorways. The time at which your graph rises represents growing awareness of climate change - particularly in the decade we're currently in - which has driven people back onto mass transit systems.

Statistics do not alone prove anything: context is vital.

[Metrobeans]

I did think there were many issues with the bill the first time round and so I voted no. However, the bill passed and I will not take part in this petty game the Conservatives seem insistent on playing.