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Reply 1
quotient and chain rules.
Reply 2
lol i dont even know how to start. can u like give me e general form? eg f'(x)[1/ (1+f(x)] tt kind of help? tks
Reply 3
there is a quotient inside another function. i.e. it's of the form y = arctan(u)

dy/dx = dy/du . du/dx
Reply 4
Unparseable latex formula:

\newline \dfrac{\mbox{d}}{\mbox{d}x} \mbox{f}(\mbox{g}(x)} = \mbox{f}'(\mbox{g}(x))\mbox{g}'(x)

- This is the chain rule. In this case
Unparseable latex formula:

\mbox{f}(x) = \arctan x,\ \mbox{g}(x) = \dfrac{2+x}{1-2x}

. I take it you know how to differentiate these individually?
given91
lol i dont even know how to start. can u like give me e general form? eg f'(x)[1/ (1+f(x)] tt kind of help? tks

The chain rule gives you a general form f(g(x)). Not everything is anywhere near as simple as the general form you gave, and this example in particular isn't.
Reply 6
nuodai
Unparseable latex formula:

\newline \dfrac{\mbox{d}}{\mbox{d}x} \mbox{f}(\mbox{g}(x)} = \mbox{f}'(\mbox{g}(x))\mbox{g}'(x)

- This is the chain rule. In this case
Unparseable latex formula:

\mbox{f}(x) = \arctan x,\ \mbox{g}(x) = \dfrac{2+x}{1-2x}

. I take it you know how to differentiate these individually?


i dno how to do f'(g(x)) > <
Reply 7
given91
i dno how to do f'(g(x)) > <

Have you done C3? It's just functions stuff.

If you had, say,
Unparseable latex formula:

\mbox{f}(x) = x^2 + 3x,\ \mbox{g}(x) = \sqrt{x} + 4

, then
Unparseable latex formula:

\mbox{f}'(x) = 2x + 3

, so
Unparseable latex formula:

\mbox{f}'(\mbox{g}(x)) = 2\mbox{g}(x) + 3 = 2(\sqrt{x} + 4) + 3 = 2\sqrt{x} + 11

... and also
Unparseable latex formula:

\mbox{g}'(x) = \dfrac{1}{2\sqrt{x}}

, so finishing it off,
Unparseable latex formula:

\dfrac{d}{dx} \mbox{f}(\mbox{g}(x)) = \dfrac{2\sqrt{x} + 11}{2\sqrt{x}}

given91
i dno how to do f'(g(x)) > <

You do, you just don't know you do.

Instead of "g(x)", I'm going to write "g"; now, f(g(x)) = f(g), which is just arctan(g). So f'(g(x)) = f'(g) = df/dg. You know how to differentiate arctan(g) with respect to g, because it's exactly the same way you'd differentiate arctan(x) with respect to x, just with a different letter...
Reply 9
nuodai
Have you done C3? It's just functions stuff.

If you had, say,
Unparseable latex formula:

\mbox{f}(x) = x^2 + 3x,\ \mbox{g}(x) = \sqrt{x} + 4

, then
Unparseable latex formula:

\mbox{f}'(x) = 2x + 3

, so
Unparseable latex formula:

\mbox{f}'(\mbox{g}(x)) = 2\mbox{g}(x) + 3 = 2(\sqrt{x} + 4) + 3 = 2\sqrt{x} + 11

... and also
Unparseable latex formula:

\mbox{g}'(x) = \dfrac{1}{2\sqrt{x}}

, so finishing it off,
Unparseable latex formula:

\dfrac{d}{dx} \mbox{f}(\mbox{g}(x)) = \dfrac{2\sqrt{x} + 11}{2\sqrt{x}}



many thanks i understand now :woo:

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