changes in entrophy and delta H

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  1. supreme's Avatar
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    changes in entrophy and delta H


    I know entrophy increases so that excludes A and B but how do I know the sign of delta H, is there any reasoning given only this information?
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    They want you to work it out, delta G = delta H - T delta S, the reaction must be feasible. So I think the answer is C, because it is feasible at any temperature when delta H is positive, D will only happen if the temperature is high enough
  3. Krismas's Avatar
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    Surely you are breaking bonds in the liquid phase, to form free gas molecules. Breaking bonds requires energy, so delta H is positive???
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    Yes, Delta H much be positive as you are breaking the intermolecular forces.
  5. sokas's Avatar
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    but the bonds broken = the bonds formed so the delta H is the same, no?
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    No ... you are breaking the intermolecular forces between the liquid molecules and need to put energy in to evaporate it into the gas. (ie this is an endothermic process)
  7. sokas's Avatar
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    yeh i just came back to say how silly of me! I thought it over, looked into that too much at the start...now that is one mistake I can not be doing in a few weeks!
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    (Original post by sokas)
    They want you to work it out, delta G = delta H - T delta S, the reaction must be feasible. So I think the answer is C, because it is feasible at any temperature when delta H is positive, D will only happen if the temperature is high enough
    I did the same thing to start lol

    I would like to say a massive thank you to all of you: Krismas, Hoofbeat & sokas.
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