Atheism and violence.

Personally, yes.
Without islam, I'd not care to mistreat who is harming me wheather he is Muslim or not.
But Islam encourge me to forgive the unbeliever if they harm me.
me, therefore I follow-step my shining example I mean my prophets like Ibrahiam who set an example of dutful person to his parents I mean His non-Muslim (Believer)father.

Or My last prophet Mohammad who forgive to kuffar people who totrued him when the upper hand was with the Prophet.

Allaah says concerning this (interpretation of the meaning):

“And by the Mercy of Allaah, you dealt with them gently. And had you been severe and harsh‑hearted, they would have broken away from about you; so pass over (their faults), and ask (Allaah’s) forgiveness for them; and consult them in the affairs. Then when you have taken a decision, put your trust in Allaah, certainly, Allaah loves those who put their trust (in Him)”

[Aal ‘Imraan 3:159]
etc.. etc..

Without Islam, I'd not care to protect other people rather i'd not care to be rude and bully.
But because islam make insulting people, laughing at them or looking them down a henious sin, i fear god to indulge in such a sin for sake of god in order to please on me.
I'll give you an example, When a man insulted his brother (in Islam) for having a black mother, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to him, “You are a man who still has jaahiliyyah (ignorance) in him.” Abu Dharr (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “There was an argument between me and one of my brothers whose mother was non-Arab. I insulted him about his mother, and he complained about me to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). I met the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and he said, “O Abu Dharr, you are a man who still has jaahiliyyah (ignorance) in him.” (Reported by al-Bukhaari and Muslim; this version narrated by Muslim, 3139).

Without Islam, I might steal (If i found a chance to do)because no body cares nor suited me.
But, because Islam taugh us that Blood-money and expiation must be paid if one unintentionally kills a "disbeliever" (Accident by car for instance )who is protected by sharee’ah, i scared to just attempt to commit such a crime.

Btw, If a Muslim deliberately murdered non-muslim The Prophet said, "Whoever killed a person having a treaty with the Muslims shall not smell the smell of Paradise though its smell is perceived from a distance of forty years."


Also,Since the upper hand was with the Muslims, the Prophet strictly warned against any maltreatment of people of other faiths. He said:

“Beware! Whoever is cruel and hard on a non-Muslim minority, or curtails their rights, or burdens them with more than they can bear, or takes anything from them against their free will; I (Prophet Muhammad) will complain against the person on the Day of Judgment.” (Abu Dawud)

That's why I need islam to abstian me from commiting any corruptian.
I more intoxcated for helping you to understand the reason.
Tc.

That's why I need islam to abstian me from commiting any corruptian.
I more intoxcated for helping you to understand the reason.
Tc.

Would you really do all of those things? .

Yes, I ask my god to ongoing fearing him from commiting anything immoral and harmful including looking people down.

Honestly, yes.

Ok, let me ask you- Would you find an atheist be faithful, sincere, careful about his wife or his "girl-friend" I.e not cheating on his wife or something?
By engaging in online cheating – using chat rooms, webcams and online services to arrange sexual encounters?
Attracting more women? Having sex with someone new?

Without Islam i wouldn't care to cheat on my "future" wife daily, gazing at women, chatting with naked women online, but because i fear my creator who banned me to commit such a corruption, and his messengers taught me how to maintain goodness in the face of these sins, I don't follow any satanic caller.
Alhamdoillah.
My shining example of this my beloved peity prophet Yousf or -what you called him jospeh- and how he ignored the invition of the woman who sought to seduce him.
Furhmore, he was asking god to save him from her.
In Quran,which means: “And if You do not avert from me their plan, I might incline toward them
and [thus] be of the ignorant.’” [Yoosuf: 33]
Allaah responds to the supplications of the righteous. Allaah says in the thirtyfourth verse:
which means: “So his Lord responded to him and averted from him their plan. Indeed, He is the Hearing, the Knowing.” [Yoosuf: 34] He is All-hearing of the supplication,and All-knowing of the situation of the supplicant.

I've been thinking this too lately. A connection to religion doesn't mean religion was the core reason, look at these two, you have George W Bush who mentions God from time to time and Tony Blair who is supposedly religious.The whole idea that religion has caused all the wars and all the conflict and everyone has died for religion, stuff needs reevaluating.

The reason I don't want to steal, cheat, kill, bully is that they cause harm to other people, and that makes them wrong. That seems like true morality to me. Morality for the sake of personal reward is not true morality.

It's educational methoid, then it become a habitual normal morality in your behavior.
And btw, your rason is mentioned as well in the religion of the creator as a main reason why such things is a sin and immoral.

I don't understand your second sentence

sounds like he's saying because bad things hurt people their sins and that's what Allah says....pretty obvious thing to say though.

Setting yourself on fire hurts...Allah says so to.

But anyway in all seriousness it does scare me when people say without fear of punishment from God they'd hurt other people. This is why religion is useful, it keeps some immoral people in check.

Well, this doesn't make you sound like a very good person. What does it say about you that the only reason you don't do bad things is because God tells you not to? I don't do bad things because I care about other people and I don't want to hurt them. I don't believe in reward or punishment after death. The reason I don't want to steal, cheat, kill, bully is that they cause harm to other people, and that makes them wrong. That seems like true morality to me. Morality for the sake of personal reward is not true morality.

They've been taught that without God humans would do bad things. I think it's pretty sad not to have faith in your own mind to work out right from wrong.

The difference between the Islamic history and the Western history is that the Islamic history was at it's peak and golden age more than 5 centuries ago where we were at our utmost of applying Islam, whereas the West just started to advance 2 centuries ago. We look at our history and the teachings of our Prophet as guidance, but you look at the dark ages as mistakes to not be repeated.

It's just I was confused as to why you included the last paragraph, it seems irrelevant.

You're right. I removed it. It diverts from the topic.

Those damn atheists and their scriptures telling them to be viole-

Waiiiit

Every person, regardless of the religion of his parents, is initially born with what we call Fitrah (see link for detailed explanation), and from a person's fitrah he can also have some sense of right and wrong. It's good to know Atheists, like yourself, who still haven't corrupted their fitrah completely. (I would safely assume you don't find pre-marital sex or alcohol consumption as something wrong, which is already a tampering of your fitrah)

Suppose a Satanist has a book of their beliefs that insists they should kill people, take huge amounts of drugs, have a lot of sex (I have no idea whether this is remotely true or not). Then surely I have to give equal weight to both your arguments?

The problem with Atheism is that it has no rules to govern it. There is no scripture that can be abused for violence, yes, but at the same time there are NO rules that prohibit killing the innocent either, for example. It's a complete anarchy.