Stalin

Stalin didn't kill 30 million Soviets, that's an outrageous claim that has been proven to be false countless times.

Russian industry had been dead in the water since the death of Peter the Great, and the Tsars had only made it worse.

You mean without "general winter".

Case of his negative contributions far outweighing his postive contributions to the world. Yes, sure he did help modernise the USSR, and circumstances led him to play a role in defeating the Nazi's, yet his human rights crime make all this pale into comparison.

That's a disgusting view, 30 million deaths were necessary?? I suppose you'd be an apologist for Pol Pot as well eh? Eradicating 20% of the people living in your country is all good and proper in the pursuit of Communism right?

By the way Peter the Great died at begin of 18th century and Russia captured Germany in the middle of 18th century.So British money didn't help Fridrih der Grossen.

also i am SICK AND TIRED of people referring to soldiers in WW2 as "Russian", this is equivalent to referring to the British soldiers in WW2 as "English" and ignoring the Welsh, Scots, N. Irish AND all the people from the British empire that also endangered and lay down their lives tp stop the Axis threat, be in German or Japansese in origin - the Soviet soldiers were not just "Russian", they were from all of the Soviet repuplics and should be referred to as Soviets - some fought because their territories had already been captured and families killed/enslaved, others fought because they knew if the Nazis weren't stopped their republics would end up getting invaded too and their families would end up suffering the same fate as those of their Ukranian/Belorussian/Moldovan/Eastern Russian comrades

Actually it doesn't. I don't know whether you've read any Marx/Engels, but Communism, both socialism as defined by Marx, and Soviet communism in practice were based on the dictatorship of the proletariat, which could only happen once the state had industrialized and implemented things like economies of scale and mass production...both of which refute your comment about 'agrarian communes' and 'no specialization'.

Soviet soldiers were experiencing exactly the same conditions.

"Circumstances"?! I would like to hear some justification for that statement. It was not he who defeated the Nazis, it was the Soviet soldiers and their anger for all the Soviet blood spilt by the Germans. The Germans didn't just kill the fighting men when they advanced, the women and children were also put to the sword - their ideology taught them that Slavs are only one step higher on the racial ladder than the Jews and must also be exterminated to provide Germany with Lebersraum (living space) in the conquered territo ries, diaries from captured German soldiers often referred to Soviet men as dogs and scum, women as whores etc

The British are our friends.Especially fieldmarshal B.Montgomery.So if all British nations start to send us small groups of soldiers for each year Victory parade that would be wonderful.
I have heard that government already decided that they make special parade group for alive veterans.But that may be awful,how can the veterans marching,they are at list 80 years old.
I really think that the Day of Victory is our mutual Holiday.When I like tourist visited tank battle reconstruction under Moscow and after show we went to touch real (working) WW2 tanks with my friend I found that some of them were drived by people speaking English.

Harsh conditions always work in favor of the defending side - that's why the Russians lost the winter war to Finland.

I was referring to the "circumstances" which led the Soviet Union to fight the German's, and what I meant was that the reason the Red Army fought the German's is because Hitler broke the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact and invaded the Soviet Union. Had Hitler not broke the pack, Stalin's army may have never fought the Germans.

I know very little about this topic, I don't mind admitting, but yes, I do agree, that Hitler or Stalin, would have almost certainly forgot about the pact when it suited them, if Hitler hadn't invaed the Soviet Union, I'm sure at some point in history, had the outcome of the war been different, Stalin and Hitler would have crossed paths again and upset one another.

history fail - the finns were forced to cede Karelia to the USSR as well as some smaller teritorries along the border that were captured

lol their marching days are over, they have served their country well as it is - im sure they wouldn't refuse if asked though, and would probably be able to keep pace well
yeah, well Victory Day (VE day in Britain) is not celebrated much around here tbh, it's very sad - speculatively, i reckon if you asked a random sample of like 1000 people from all ages and walks of life most would struggle to even recall the date

You regard Hitler as a worse person than stalin? Though Hitler brings about nightmare to Europe, he helped German out from the depression very successfully and effectively. That was only achieved by president Franklin Rossevelt at the same time! Stalin kills over half of his military commanders to keep his throne safe! And that's why Russian army was flushed by the German at the first stage of the war. Hitler is a criminal, a bet loser who losed himself and German and the whole world, but he is not a foolish ruthless killer like Stalin.

He was a bad man, but he helped to defeat a badder man.


Thats my advanced summary of the situation.

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