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  • View Poll Results: Which one?
    British
    78
    39.20%
    English
    53
    26.63%
    Scottish
    26
    13.07%
    Welsh
    15
    7.54%
    Irish
    13
    6.53%
    None
    14
    7.04%

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    Just a simple question, what do you consider to be your primary ethnicity , if any of them. Myself, I consider myself British first before anything else. :yes:

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    I really, really don't care what imaginary border I happen to have been born within.
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    Cornish but if they don't have that option then English.
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    English!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!
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    This is on the UCAS form, the options are British, English, Welsh and Scottish.

    It made me think.
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    If I'm applying for a job in England it's British

    In Wales it's welsh

    If I'm being pretentious I click other and put Welsh/Irish
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    If you'll ask me my nationality, I'll say British rather than Scottish because of the legal dimension.

    However, I don't really think it's a matter of which I feel 'more' or 'before', they are different types of identity which, essentially, are part of one another. You cannot have Scottishness without Britishness or Britishness without Europeanness, by very definition. Equally I don't think one is more important than the other: I simply wouldn't be myself without both elements.

    If you did ask me to rank then, I'd put a lot of other identities before being Scottish or British: my social class, for example, or my county. People who make too big a deal about nationality - particularly those that emphasise one part to the exclusion of others - annoy the living hell out of me.
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    looks like it's fairly even at the minute.

    i chose Scottish, but I'm definitely not one of those people who are all like "omfg, scotland's the best, f*k the english bastards, don't call me british"
    that's just too far.

    However, if I was abroad and someone asked me about myself, I would say "I'm Scottish" rather than "I'm British".
    I don't know why, I just would
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    The question on UCAS asks for your national identity.
    I chose British.
    It would be quite uncomfortable to say English.
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    (Original post by Phugoid)
    I really, really don't care what imaginary border I happen to have been born within.
    Idealistic prick.
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    (Original post by Phugoid)
    I really, really don't care what imaginary border I happen to have been born within.
    :facepalm2:
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    (Original post by PJ991)
    The question on UCAS asks for your national identity.
    I chose British.
    It would be quite uncomfortable to say English.
    Why would you be uncomfortable with that, out of idle curiosity? Do you ascribe to any type of English identity?

    Of course, if it's just something you don't connect to, then that's a fine reason in itself. I suppose that isn't really something a person can justify.
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    Unless Northern Irish, someone Irish is absolutely not British. Sorry to go on like a broken record, but I feel staunchly about it.
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    (Original post by Phugoid)
    I really, really don't care what imaginary border I happen to have been born within.
    They're not imaginary. There's signposts and everything :rolleyes:

    I usually say British.
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    Indian.

    And no, i wasn't born and / or raised here.
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    (Original post by Phugoid)
    I really, really don't care what imaginary border I happen to have been born within.
    It's really not imaginary though is it? What country someone is brought up in will likely have a good deal of influence on their personality. You would probably be a very different person if you were say, Argentinian, or even if you were from a different country in Europe.
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    (Original post by L i b)
    Why would you be uncomfortable with that, out of idle curiosity? Do you ascribe to any type of English identity?

    Of course, if it's just something you don't connect to, then that's a fine reason in itself. I suppose that isn't really something a person can justify.
    Because I don't feel England has an identity that is very strong, especially when you compare to Scotland and Wales, particularly Scotland, who seem to have a very strong sense of pride in their country.

    Also, people seem to have a lesser opinion of 'English' around the world than of Britain.

    And finally, I think the union is quite a good thing, and there's no need to say I'm English just to resent the union or anything, because, as I say, there's nothing about England that gives me identity.
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    (Original post by rockrunride)
    Unless Northern Irish, someone Irish is absolutely not British. Sorry to go on like a broken record, but I feel staunchly about it.
    They're British if they chose to be and identify as such.
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    It really pisses me off when people say they hate the English or the Welsh or w/e, when they're from Britain, we should be sticking together and how many people can honestly say they are 100% Welsh/Scottish etc...
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    I was born and raised in London but I always put down British in any sort of forms or questionnaires.

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