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With only seven universities in the UK offering the course (see below for names), and only an estimated 850 places up for grabs Veterinary Medicine is a competitive course, and we all need all the help we can get! So what does the wiki include?
Your ApplicationSo we all know what constitutes a supposedly “perfect” vet med application; good grades, a range of work experience and evidence of extra-curricular activities. While the demands of each university vary slightly, these are the first things you need to consider when putting in your application.
AcademiaGradesThe general offer for a place on the D100 is AAB, though it can be higher depending on the university and the individual applicant. Most universities demand that you take Biology and Chemistry at A2 – and then leave the third choice to you. There are a few, though, that also demand Maths or Physics in addition to those two. Some universities also stipulate that certain subjects must be passed at an A within that AAB offer. Obviously, for the majority of applications, you won’t have your grades in hand yet. So to judge you academically the universities will be looking for you to have predicted A2 grades of the same standard mentioned above – so make sure you work hard in your AS’s – not only do they contribute half of your final A2 grade, but they will be the basis of your A2 predictions. Taking a 4th A2Some people will wonder whether taking a fourth A2 subject will increase their chances of a successful application. While this shows good academic ability it is important to remember that the universities only require three A Levels and often state that a fourth A Level will not be used as a deciding factor in any application. It is also worthwhile thinking about the effect the extra pressure would have on your other subjects. If you feel continuing a fourth A-Level may prevent you from doing as superbly in your other subjects don’t even consider it. GCSEsOften the universities also demand a few minimum grades at GCSE. For most universities it is asked that GCSE Science, English and Maths are passed at a B. Again, though, requirements vary from university to university. Extended Qualification or Maths ChallengeSome people ask whether the Extended Qualification or Maths Challenges and the like are really necessary in their D100 application. While these sorts of things aren’t demanded, they do show academic ability – and every little helps. HOWEVER if you don’t have them, you certainly don’t need to stress. It won’t put you at any disadvantage, and many people get offers without them. BMATThe only important academic extra required is the BMAT (Biomedical Admissions Test) [1]. This is a short exam, comprised of a problem-solving section, a section testing your maths/science abilities, and an essay in which you examine one of three essay titles (all usually with a scientific/medical slant). The results of this exam are only used by the Royal Veterinary College and Cambridge, however, so unless you are applying to these institutions you do not need to sit it. See the link above, or the TSR BMAT Wiki for more information regarding the BMAT. Entrance Requirements 2010As of 2010 entry, the academic criteria for the universities are as follows. For up to date information and requirements for qualifications other than A Levels, please check the individual websites or prospectuses. Bristol AAB in Biology, Chemistry and a third academic subject. "Good grades" required in GCSE Maths, English and three separate Sciences or Double Science. Cambridge A*AA in two science or maths subjects, and a third at AS Level. Some colleges require three science subjects to A2 level. A or AS Level passes in three of Biology, Maths, Chemistry and Physics, with one required to be Chemistry. GCSE A/B/C in Double Science (or Biology and Physics) and Maths. Candidates are required to take the BMAT. Edinburgh AAB with an A in Chemistry, and other subjects to be Biology and Maths or Physics. Alternatively ABBB with an A in Chemistry and B in Biology, Chemistry, Maths and Physics. A "good pass" at GCSE Physics is required if not offered at A Level. Resitters not considered. Glasgow AAB in Chemistry (Grade A), Biology and a third academic subject, at first sitting. Liverpool AABb in Biology, a science related subject and third academic subject. Chemistry must be offered to at least AS Level. GCSE B grades required in Maths, English and Physics. Resitters must have AAA. Nottingham AAB with Grade A in Biology and Chemistry. 5As at GCSE including 3 Sciences or Double Science. Grade B in Maths and English Language. Grade A at AS Physics can compensate for a B at GCSE Physics. RVC AAA preferred, Grade A in Biology and Chemistry required. Third academic subject, preferably at grade A. Resitters must have AAA. All applicants must take the BMAT. 5 As at GCSE including AA in Double Science or Biology and Chemistry. English Language, Maths and Physics at Grade A or B. Resitter is used to describe people resitting modules outside of the usual two years taken for A Level study. Links to the Vet Faculty websites of all the universities are available at the bottom of the page.
Work ExperienceMain Work Experience Wiki Page Why do we have to do work experience?‘Cause it gives you a better insight into what the career entails, so that when you make an application you are sure the career is one for you. It also means that admissions tutors know you have an actual idea of the profession and you have not simply been deluded by television shows and/or literature. What it involvesIt can be a lot of work - often involves a shifting whole pile of poo, getting up before the sun has even thought about it, "putting the kettle on" and other general recognised slavery tasks without a penny in return... But while you're stood there with your mop, cleaning up after Snuggles the dog who has lost control of his bladder again, there is a lot you can learn just by watching - and that is one of the most beautiful things about work exp. You can watch how the vet copes with aggressive dogs; watch how animals are restrained; look out for routines they repeat and then ask if you can help once you’ve got it. Ask endless questions- you’ll be sick of the sound of your own voice and may think that the question sounds dumb, but it never is, and if you don’t know the answer now you’ll feel even more stupid if you don’t know it when asked later on by an interviewer/ lecturer or, many years down the line, by a client! University RequirementsAgain every university has its own requirements regarding work experience, and its worth checking out each individual website to ensure you tick all their boxes (see the links at the bottom of the page). When people ask how much work experience should be given out, the general amount we all advise to be done is the minimum required by Liverpool University – simply because if you meet Liverpool’s work exp standards, you’ll meet the standards of all the other universities too. For ease I’ll spoon-feed you Liverpool’s requirements:
Of these ten weeks you must have:
I must stress here though, that while the above suggestions make up the minimum amount of work experience you should have done for your application to be considered, many candidates will have done a whole lot more. It is not unusual for candidates to have one or even two placements, in either category stated above, which they have been attending on a regular basis for a year or more. Bear this in mind. Universities will certainly not reject you if you haven’t had placements of this sort of duration, but attending an establishment for that length of time does show dedication to the career and will leave you with far more of an insight than a placement that lasts only a week. The most important thing to consider when arranging work experience placements though, is that you have a good range. Variety is key. What to get from itMake sure you actually learn from your placements. It is not enough to simply attend them. Are you acquiring practical skills that will be useful as a vet? Are you learning more about profession itself? These are the sorts of questions you need to ask yourself. Some people like to keep case-books of their work experience files, so they can see exactly what they did at the time, and mull over what they’ve learnt at a later date. This is not a necessity, but I will not dispute its usefulness. Do Planned Work Experience Placements Count?We often get asked whether universities will include work experience that is only in the pipeline at the time of application. The answer we generally give is that while universities will recognise that you have work experience planned as far as we know they only really take into account work experience that has already been done when considering whether or not you meet their minimum requirements. The main reason for this is that you have not yet learnt anything from the placement, so it doesn’t really strengthen your application – and you can’t really talk about it at interview. Don’t let this put you off planning work experience that will be done following submission of your application – especially if the placement is just a fun extra like zoo work. Just be aware that is much safer to get as much done as possible before deadline day, especially if it is one of the core work exp placements (e.g. dairy farming). Finding PlacementsIf you are currently contemplating suicide because the placement is 40 miles away, you don’t drive and the bus only leaves at 8 pm on a Sunday, or perhaps because you have just received back the umpteenth letter describing how there are ‘no placements available’, ‘no insurance for volunteers’ or simply ‘no animals’ at the places you wish to do work experience, then don’t worry- everyone goes through this (its often a load of bull to weed out the people that aren’t really interested). Finding them:
Contacting them:
Keep on persisting (unless its due to insurance reasons- then they really can’t take you and you’re likely to just piss them off) one vet once said to me that they just bin letters because its usually some lazy toad from high school who doesn’t know what else to do with their work experience week- prove that you aren’t that toad! Getting there: Sometimes these places won’t be easy to reach- a lot of people don’t live near to farms etc but you have to put yourself out- its unfortunate but the uni’s wouldn’t accept ‘I couldn’t get there’ as an excuse for your pitiful amount of work experience. Remember again, this is competitive and its hard work, put in the effort and you’ll get there!
What to wear:Use your common sense- don’t wear your best mini skirt and Gucci hat!
Ring up and ask if you’re not sure- they’ll be glad your showing enthusiasm! ReferencesFinally we approach the subject of references. Its not essential to get them from every placement, but it certainly won’t hurt to do so - some universities require submission of references along with your personal statement, others don't require them at all, but treat them as a bonus. Ask for someone at your placement to write one a couple of days before you’re due to finish, so that you can collect it on the last day. This way you'll be fresh in their minds and they'll be in a position to write as much as possible about you. But what are these references supposed to say? Generally they're a quick note about the work you undertook whilst attending the placement. Often the referee will also make some mention of the good qualities they see in you. They may talk about your:
There is no set length for a reference. They can be a sentence or two, or as long as your arm. It all depends on the person writing it! If you haven’t got any references it might be worth going back to the places that you worked at. Pray that you made a good enough impression on them to make you be remembered. If you're still struggling then do remember that other people have gone without them and still got offers so its not the end of the world!
Extra-CurricularsThe universities like applicants to show evidence of extra-curricular activities in their applications. It is widely accepted that there should even be a paragraph in your personal statement devoted to them (for more on the Personal Statement scroll to the Application Process section below or check out the wiki). The reason behind this love for extra-curriculars is threefold:
There is no particular extra-curricular activity that is particularly desired by the universities, nor is there one that will put you at any disadvantage. It is usually best, however, to have a mix of team-playing and solitary activities so that the universities know you are not some self-absorbed loner or, equally, someone who cannot function independently. Examples of activities that have been included in Personal Statements and the sorts of desirable qualities they demonstrate are:
You get the gist.
The ExtrasSo what else is there that you could throw into your application mix to improve it? Not much really! Some people ask whether attending courses/conferences will boost the chances of their application. In a word, no. Some people can afford to attend these courses and some can’t; it’d be unfair, therefore, if the universities were biased towards those that did attend. The only purpose of these courses is to offer a little more information about the career itself, a little more about the application process – and in the case of university-specific programmes like VetCam – and a little more about the universities. Your attending the courses might increase your knowledge and be useful in that respect, but simply stating that you’ve attended such a conference will not improve your application in the slightest. (For more Information on the various courses available, see the links at the bottom of the page, or check out the wiki)
UCAS FormPersonal StatementWhat to put in your personal statementCompleting all this work experience is useless if you can’t talk it up into a frenzy in your PS. This is where that diary comes in (if you didn’t keep one then try and remember what you did- use the internet to find out what goes on in your average dairy farm, stables, vet practice etc). Make sure the unis know how many places you went to, and what you got from them! If you had to travel 84 miles on camelback just to get there- say so (…if your parents ferried you there it might be an idea to omit that bit!) Anything that will show your good side- scribble down, you have to sell yourself and don’t have much time to do it! Some people say to write down the time spent at each placement. This can help but as the space is limited and some unis ask for this separately it isn’t overly essential, just noting down the time spent at your longest placements might be an idea. Try and describe what you learnt from your placements- it’s a good alternative to just listing them; just as a thought- you could say what qualities you used whilst there, how it made you feel, what it taught you about the career, what it made you realise, what you learnt etc. Personal statements are a whole other kettle of fish- try and be original with them- they’re a bastard for space- you have to fit your life onto a page and make it witty, eye catching and interesting; good luck with that… Also if you want to buy extra time you are able to put down what you have planned to do as well. As long as it's truthful and booked for before any potential interviews arise (that way you can talk about them at interview; despite the fact that I'd said I was yet to do my abbattoir placement in my personal statement, my Bristol interviewer still questioned me about it, relentlessly, for 10 minutes, before finally getting the message that I hadn't lied, I was just simply saving it for later) then it's a schneaky way of cadging an extra few months. Write something like 'I have booked so long at such and such a farm'- and it will be counted! My personal statement is too long, help!InterviewsCourse StructureBristolThe majority of teaching during the first three years of study is held in Bristol, although during this period you will spend one day a week at the Clinical Veterinary School at Langford. Pre-clinical teaching in Bristol takes place in the School of Veterinary Science, the School of Medical Sciences and the School of Biological Sciences. The aim of pre-clinical study is to provide a firm basic knowledge of the normal structure and function of the animal body. Following from this you will undertake studies of disease and its treatment. Throughout this period you will also study animal management, production and husbandry, with the emphasis being placed on how these contribute to the health and welfare of animals. The last two clinical years of the programme are undertaken in the Departments of Clinical Veterinary Science and Pathology and Microbiology at the Clinical Veterinary School at Langford, which is situated in the Mendip Hills, some 13 miles south west of Bristol. Throughout the programme, it is a requirement of the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons that you undertake 12 weeks of extramural practical experience with animals; these placements are carried out on farms and other units such as stables during the vacations of the first two years of study. A further 26 weeks of clinical extramural study is undertaken during the vacations of the last three years of the programme For the most part, the clinical study comprises placements in veterinary practice, but includes diagnostic laboratory work with the Veterinary Laboratory Agency and attendance at a meat hygiene course. CambridgePreclinical course The first three years - the scientific basis of Veterinary Medicine. Subjects in the first two years concentrate on the biological sciences that underlie the practice of veterinary medicine. Year 1 Year 2 Year 3 For Further information regarding the Pre-Clinical Course visit the Faculty of Biology pages Clinical course Years 4 to 6 - science into practice. In the autumn after the Part II examinations and graduation with the BA degree, all veterinary students commence their clinical studies at the Veterinary School, Madingley Road. The three-year clinical course is made up of lectures and extensive small group, hands-on, teaching (typically in groups of 8) termed 'rotations'. The Veterinary School is generously equipped with computer-aided learning and research facilities to support these activities. Years 4 and 5 Year 6 Students graduate with the VetMB at the end of the Summer Term when you will be invited to attend a ceremony held at the Veterinary School, and you will be admitted to membership of the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons as a fully qualified member of the veterinary profession. EdinburghProgramme details Year 1 Year 2 Year 3 Year 4 Year 5 GlasgowThe overall objectives of the five year curriculum are to provide an evolving quality educational programme in a research rich environment that will prepare students for future careers as veterinarians. The programme is designed to imbue the knowledge, philosophy, professional and technical skills such that the graduate feels confident to practice the art and science of veterinary medicine and surgery, and which prepares students for the profession that anticipates life-long learning and continuing professional development. Curriculum Digest 1st Year 2nd Year 3rd Year 4th Year 5th Year Extramural Study ( EMS) LiverpoolThe BVSc provides a groundwork of preclinical subjects during the first two years of the programme, including anatomy, whole animal design and function, and genetics. You will gain valuable experience in animal maintenance, production and welfare both here and on your Extra Mural Study (EMS) placements. The 3rd year is paraclinical. Here you will build on your knowledge and apply it to disease states. Pathological processes, infectious diseases and the fundamentals of parasitology are introduced along with the practical implications of public health. This provides you with the background to some of the clinical situations you will meet as you start your EMS in external veterinary practices. Here you will begin to use your knowledge and apply practically. In your fourth and final years, you will be based at Leahurst for your clinical studies, returning to Liverpool to spend time in our small animal first opinion clinic. During these two years, you will play an important and integral role in our hospitals and first opinion practices, gaining invaluable hands-on experience. Our fifth year is completely lecture free, enabling you to concentrate on getting the most out of your clinical rotations and placements. You can choose a specialist elective to study in a subject area that interest you most. Our students acquire the relevant knowledge, skills and experience through a blend of lectures seminars, problem-based learning in groups, individual project work, clinical rotations and EMS placements. This enables them to graduate with a set of core competencies in preparation for Day One of their professional lives. Our students receive a thorough grounding in the understanding of research and this is rewarded by the award of BSc after 3 years. After 5 years, graduates are awarded the degree of Bachelor of Veterinary Science (BVSc) and are eligible for membership of the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons NottinghamOur veterinary undergraduate curriculum is taught using a modular system over the first four years with a lecture free clinical year: Years 1 and 2 develop learning primarily about the "normal" animal using clinical case examples and scenarios. You will also develop animal handling skills, and understanding of animal husbandry, relevant industries and the role of animals in society. Personal and Professional skills focus on learning, communication and the professional role of the Veterinary Surgeon. Year 3 provides you with an opportunity to focus on a research project of your choice. You will also develop further understanding of principles underpinning clinical veterinary sciences. At the end of Year 3 you will graduate with a Bachelor of Veterinary Medical Sciences (BVMedSci) degree. Years 3 and 4 develop learning about animal production, trauma management, disease processes, diagnosis, management and prevention. This part of the course also integrates learning of pathological processes with the food industry, zoonotic disease and public health. Personal and Professional skills are expanded to incorporate business skills and entrepreneurship. Year 5 consists of a series of Clinical Practice Modules that comprise small-group clinical teaching in a hospital/practical/laboratory situation at our Clinical Associates. Teaching and learning is based upon observation, discussion and practical experience; at each institution students are under the supervision of university academic staff placed at, and working within, the institution. A total of 12 weeks Animal Husbandry Extra Mural Studies (EMS) and 26 weeks Clinical EMS is also undertaken. Animal Husbandry and Clinical EMS is organised in accordance with recommendations as defined by the RCVS. Extra Mural Studies expose students to the practical, ethical, financial, managerial and inter-personal aspects of professional practice. EMS placements are appropriately supervised and assessed and take place during vacations and during Year 5. At the end of Year 5 successful students graduate with the Bachelor of Veterinary Medicine (BVM) and Bachelor of Veterinary Surgery (BVS) degrees. RVCTwo years getting fully grounded in basic science based at the London campus, followed by three years developing your clinical skills at the field station in Hertfordshire. We feel that this is the most effective way of preparing you for Intra and Extra Mural Studies. During the programme you will learn, among other things, to diagnose and treat sick animals, understand the importance of preventative medicine and develop critical business and communication skills to help you while in practice. A lecture-free final year is devoted to developing practical skills and problem based learning in the RVC’s Hospitals and private veterinary practices. Your learning experience will comprise directed learning, laboratory work, practical experience and clinical skills development. You will learn how to solve complex problems, either working individually or in groups. During the 5 year degree you will need to submit several research projects as coursework. These bring together many skills that will have been taught and allow you to investigate areas of veterinary medicine that interest you. We want you to succeed throughout your time on the BVetMed. Our personal development planning system encourages you to take responsibility for your own learning and share concerns and advice with your peers. This support network means that any issues are identified at an early stage. Importantly, it ensures that you get the most out of the learning experience.
Life as a Veterinary Medicine StudentCurrent/Past Student ExperiencesHow to Cope with PlacementsGraduate OptionsUniversities Offering Veterinary Medicine in the UKBristol Vet School: http://www.vetschool.bris.ac.uk/ Cambridge Vet School: http://www.vet.cam.ac.uk/ Dublin Vet School: http://www.ucd.ie/vetmed/ Edinburgh - The Royal School of Veterinary Studies : http://www.vet.ed.ac.uk/ Glasgow Veterinary School: http://www.gla.ac.uk/vet/ Liverpool Vet School: http://www.liv.ac.uk/vets/ Nottingham Vet School: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/vet/ Royal Veterinary College - London: http://www.rvc.ac.uk/
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