Applying to Study Korean - My Experience
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Original post by umbrellala
Thank-you!
And thank you for helping me realise I made a typo in my post! xD
Interesting read so far! I always love reading about people's journeys.
I like how you structured your blog and it's great to learn more about you and how you made such a life-changing decision!
Congratulations on all the offers and I look forward to reading more of your progress.
I like how you structured your blog and it's great to learn more about you and how you made such a life-changing decision!
Congratulations on all the offers and I look forward to reading more of your progress.
Same!
Well apart from the Korean, I want to do Russian at University and when people ask how I came to that decision (having previously wanted to do Psych, Medicine etc) I have no idea what to respond because one day whilst studying for ASLevels I was just like ''this is boring, I want to do something interesting'' and I had always been fascinated with Russian more so than other countries, so I just looked up universities that don't require an A Level or GCSE in Languages. Now I have 5 offers, and I have no idea which ones to choose.
Because there are only a small amount of universities, the league tables fluctuate which means it hard to base how good that university is, such as QMUL it went from 4th to 11th!!, and the location of the university like London or not London. Then there's the one year abroad, which location is best to experience the country???? Also the whole should I do I joint honours to increase the chances of getting a job (also totally looking forwards to having a job in my degree).
(sorry for the rant and the terrible grammar etc,in a wee dilemma)
But anyway,
All the best, wish you the best of futures studying Korean.
Well apart from the Korean, I want to do Russian at University and when people ask how I came to that decision (having previously wanted to do Psych, Medicine etc) I have no idea what to respond because one day whilst studying for ASLevels I was just like ''this is boring, I want to do something interesting'' and I had always been fascinated with Russian more so than other countries, so I just looked up universities that don't require an A Level or GCSE in Languages. Now I have 5 offers, and I have no idea which ones to choose.
Because there are only a small amount of universities, the league tables fluctuate which means it hard to base how good that university is, such as QMUL it went from 4th to 11th!!, and the location of the university like London or not London. Then there's the one year abroad, which location is best to experience the country???? Also the whole should I do I joint honours to increase the chances of getting a job (also totally looking forwards to having a job in my degree).
(sorry for the rant and the terrible grammar etc,in a wee dilemma)
But anyway,
All the best, wish you the best of futures studying Korean.
Original post by Toy Soldiers
Interesting read so far! I always love reading about people's journeys.
I like how you structured your blog and it's great to learn more about you and how you made such a life-changing decision!
Congratulations on all the offers and I look forward to reading more of your progress.
I like how you structured your blog and it's great to learn more about you and how you made such a life-changing decision!
Congratulations on all the offers and I look forward to reading more of your progress.
Thank-you!
Original post by Sid The Kid
Same!
Well apart from the Korean, I want to do Russian at University and when people ask how I came to that decision (having previously wanted to do Psych, Medicine etc) I have no idea what to respond because one day whilst studying for ASLevels I was just like ''this is boring, I want to do something interesting'' and I had always been fascinated with Russian more so than other countries, so I just looked up universities that don't require an A Level or GCSE in Languages. Now I have 5 offers, and I have no idea which ones to choose.
Because there are only a small amount of universities, the league tables fluctuate which means it hard to base how good that university is, such as QMUL it went from 4th to 11th!!, and the location of the university like London or not London. Then there's the one year abroad, which location is best to experience the country???? Also the whole should I do I joint honours to increase the chances of getting a job (also totally looking forwards to having a job in my degree).
(sorry for the rant and the terrible grammar etc,in a wee dilemma)
But anyway,
All the best, wish you the best of futures studying Korean.
Well apart from the Korean, I want to do Russian at University and when people ask how I came to that decision (having previously wanted to do Psych, Medicine etc) I have no idea what to respond because one day whilst studying for ASLevels I was just like ''this is boring, I want to do something interesting'' and I had always been fascinated with Russian more so than other countries, so I just looked up universities that don't require an A Level or GCSE in Languages. Now I have 5 offers, and I have no idea which ones to choose.
Because there are only a small amount of universities, the league tables fluctuate which means it hard to base how good that university is, such as QMUL it went from 4th to 11th!!, and the location of the university like London or not London. Then there's the one year abroad, which location is best to experience the country???? Also the whole should I do I joint honours to increase the chances of getting a job (also totally looking forwards to having a job in my degree).
(sorry for the rant and the terrible grammar etc,in a wee dilemma)
But anyway,
All the best, wish you the best of futures studying Korean.
It's always difficult to try and explain the rationale behind it apart from finding it interesting, but apparently being interested is never enough haha. Sometimes it's nice to make a decision with you heart rather than your head I guess. Congrats on your offers and good luck with Russian!
Mocks
My A-Level mock week was between the 22nd and 26th of January, and it was... not great. Let's just say I didn't have the 'hellish revision-filled Christmas holidays' that I thought I'd have the last time I wrote an update about getting offers, in fact there was very little revision that went on during those two weeks. There wasn't much revision done in the weeks leading up to mocks either, apart from the week before and mock week itself. It's safe to say I felt thoroughly unprepared going into each exam, and during that week I crammed harder than I ever had before, coming incredibly close to completely burning out. If nothing else, it's given me good motivation to actually work hard in summer (although knowing me I'll probably be looking back at this laughing, feeling equally unprepared in June) because it was not fun in any way. Hopefully this will push me to start revising at a reasonable time.
Now it's been a few weeks, I've had all my results back. To fulfil my highest offer I need AAB, but since my EPQ is currently at an A/B, I only need ABB. In Chemistry, I got a C which is lower than I would've liked but was expected, the major problem being a lack of revision and stupid mistakes. Although it's a little disappointing and not the ideal position to be in at this point in the year, I'm fairly confident that if I revise well I should be okay since I'm getting As in my end of chapter tests so my understanding seems to be alright, it's just a case of making it stick. In Biology, by some absolute miracle I got an A which was a relief because it was the one I put most of my effort into. I usually find biology easier because you're often asked to apply things more than directly explain or show things like in chemistry, so I seem to be able to give much better answers. In Government and Politics I got an A so it's nice to know I'm working at the same level as my AS. I wasn't too concerned about G&P since I already have half the qualification under my belt, meaning I only need to be getting a B this year to still average out at an A overall.
So, although mocks were horrific, my results didn't turn out to be too bad and now I know where to focus my efforts for June.
My A-Level mock week was between the 22nd and 26th of January, and it was... not great. Let's just say I didn't have the 'hellish revision-filled Christmas holidays' that I thought I'd have the last time I wrote an update about getting offers, in fact there was very little revision that went on during those two weeks. There wasn't much revision done in the weeks leading up to mocks either, apart from the week before and mock week itself. It's safe to say I felt thoroughly unprepared going into each exam, and during that week I crammed harder than I ever had before, coming incredibly close to completely burning out. If nothing else, it's given me good motivation to actually work hard in summer (although knowing me I'll probably be looking back at this laughing, feeling equally unprepared in June) because it was not fun in any way. Hopefully this will push me to start revising at a reasonable time.
Now it's been a few weeks, I've had all my results back. To fulfil my highest offer I need AAB, but since my EPQ is currently at an A/B, I only need ABB. In Chemistry, I got a C which is lower than I would've liked but was expected, the major problem being a lack of revision and stupid mistakes. Although it's a little disappointing and not the ideal position to be in at this point in the year, I'm fairly confident that if I revise well I should be okay since I'm getting As in my end of chapter tests so my understanding seems to be alright, it's just a case of making it stick. In Biology, by some absolute miracle I got an A which was a relief because it was the one I put most of my effort into. I usually find biology easier because you're often asked to apply things more than directly explain or show things like in chemistry, so I seem to be able to give much better answers. In Government and Politics I got an A so it's nice to know I'm working at the same level as my AS. I wasn't too concerned about G&P since I already have half the qualification under my belt, meaning I only need to be getting a B this year to still average out at an A overall.
So, although mocks were horrific, my results didn't turn out to be too bad and now I know where to focus my efforts for June.
Updates
Firstly, I'd like to give an update on how other people have been about my degree choice. In a previous post, I spoke about how most people in my life have been reluctant to be supportive and how that affected me, but I don’t feel like that’s representative of my current situation anymore. I'm glad to say that now there is not one member of my friends and family that is not fully supportive of me, in fact they are all very enthusiastic about my future and have generally been amazing about it all. So many of my friends have wanted to go out for Korean food with me and have been curious about what exactly it is I'll be studying, and my parents are always talking about how excited they are to visit me in my year abroad. If you've been struggling with having a lack of support from the people around you, know that it will get better with time once everyone realises how much you want this, and soon enough they'll be more excited about your degree than you are!
Also, thank-you to everyone who has been so supportive of me and this thread, your replies are all so interesting and it's amazing to see so many people in the same boat! It's down to this thread that I am now a Community Assistant and part of the TSR team, so thank-you all again for listening to my rambling haha
The next update should be about applicant days and my advantages/disadvantages or general thoughts about the unis I've visited, specifically the Sheffield v SOAS debate which is so common with Korean degrees. Since my Sheffield applicant day was last weekend and the SOAS one is on the 25th April, it might be a while until I next post, so in the meantime I hope everyone's studies are going well and that you're getting good news back from unis if you're applying this year
Firstly, I'd like to give an update on how other people have been about my degree choice. In a previous post, I spoke about how most people in my life have been reluctant to be supportive and how that affected me, but I don’t feel like that’s representative of my current situation anymore. I'm glad to say that now there is not one member of my friends and family that is not fully supportive of me, in fact they are all very enthusiastic about my future and have generally been amazing about it all. So many of my friends have wanted to go out for Korean food with me and have been curious about what exactly it is I'll be studying, and my parents are always talking about how excited they are to visit me in my year abroad. If you've been struggling with having a lack of support from the people around you, know that it will get better with time once everyone realises how much you want this, and soon enough they'll be more excited about your degree than you are!
Also, thank-you to everyone who has been so supportive of me and this thread, your replies are all so interesting and it's amazing to see so many people in the same boat! It's down to this thread that I am now a Community Assistant and part of the TSR team, so thank-you all again for listening to my rambling haha
The next update should be about applicant days and my advantages/disadvantages or general thoughts about the unis I've visited, specifically the Sheffield v SOAS debate which is so common with Korean degrees. Since my Sheffield applicant day was last weekend and the SOAS one is on the 25th April, it might be a while until I next post, so in the meantime I hope everyone's studies are going well and that you're getting good news back from unis if you're applying this year
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I want to study Korean. What now?
Choosing GCSEs
The subjects that you take at GCSE are unlikely to impact your university choices if you are completely set on doing a Korean degree. Universities will expect to see that you’ve taken a GCSE language, although if your application is exceptional they may allow you onto the course without any previous language experience. Unless you think you would fail a language GCSE (in which case, Korean probably isn’t the course for you) then I would strongly advise you take a language. The language you take doesn’t matter, since most schools only offer European languages.
In terms of other subjects, universities don’t really show any preference towards specific subjects, although it it would be a good idea to take a humanity such as history since you will be learning some history throughout the course. As with the vast majority of university courses, you should have a strong pass in English and maths.
GCSE students
Start looking into Korean culture. At this stage, it is absolutely fine to just listen to the music, watch dramas, and maybe try to find a local restaurant. Keep it fun as a hobby, making absolutely sure that you’re not going to get bored of it, and start to immerse yourself in the culture as much as possible whilst still living in the UK. If you’d like to start looking into the language, try an app like LingoDeer or listen to the first few lessons on Talk To Me In Korean. It doesn’t need to be too serious or involve much studying, just enjoy it!
Choosing A-Levels
SOAS is the only university* that states a preference for an A-Level language, so overall it is probably a good idea to take a language if you think you can get an A/A*. However, a language is not required. Universities acknowledge that European languages are very different from Asian ones, so will understand if you’ve chosen not to do an A-Level because you didn’t enjoy the languages your school provided. I didn’t take an A-Level language (although did get an A in GCSE German taken a year early through a fast-track programme) and still got offers from all the unis including SOAS, so as long as the rest of your application is strong, you should be okay without a language.
Universities don’t state any preference for other subjects, although it is advisable to go for academic subjects, and preferably humanities. I took Biology, Chemistry, and Government & Politics, having G&P as my humanity and the sciences being well-respected academic subjects. Other than that, you pretty much have the freedom to study what you’d like to.
Whether or not you take an EPQ is an interesting debate. It does increase your UCAS points, and can lower your entry requirements, but you should remember that it is very time consuming (almost as much as taking a whole extra A-Level) and will last a full year. If you are taking four subjects, I would strongly advise against you taking an EPQ as it will probably do more harm than good, since it will take up so much more of your time. However, if you’re taking three and you think you can handle the workload, I would highly recommend it. I took an EPQ and really enjoyed it. It was a good way to show my interest in Korea in a way that was concrete, rather than just talking about how I like the music or films. And, it lowered both my SOAS and Sheffield entry requirements by a grade (providing I got a B or above in my EPQ). It also made me more confident in my decision to study Korean since I enjoyed my topic so much.
A-Level students
Now is the time to start taking your hobby more seriously! Of course, continue watching dramas and listening to the music you like, but try to take more of a note of the language whilst you do it. It’s worth looking into the history of Korea and East Asia a little so you can familiarise yourself with it and see whether you would enjoy that side of the Korean course too. Definitely try and get some language studying in. Whether you decide to enrol in classes or self-teach (I will make a post about good ways to do this in the future), it will look impressive on your personal statement and prove to the admissions tutor that you are serious and committed to the subject.
Talking of personal statements, take the time to make it as good as it can possibly be. Keep the fluff and padding to an absolute minimum, and really paint yourself in the best light you can. It might feel like you’re bragging, and will probably feel unnatural to be so shameless about it, but it’s what will get you into the course you want. Research the unis well, work out which course is best for you, go on taster days (I would highly recommend the SOAS Japan & Korea taster day for year 12 students which you can book here), open days, and applicant days. Enjoy the process! It is stressful but it should be fun and exciting too.
If you’d like more advice on choosing subjects or any of the subjects I took, my private messages are always open and I read all of your comments on this thread!
*the universities I am referring to are SOAS, Sheffield, and UCLan
Choosing GCSEs
The subjects that you take at GCSE are unlikely to impact your university choices if you are completely set on doing a Korean degree. Universities will expect to see that you’ve taken a GCSE language, although if your application is exceptional they may allow you onto the course without any previous language experience. Unless you think you would fail a language GCSE (in which case, Korean probably isn’t the course for you) then I would strongly advise you take a language. The language you take doesn’t matter, since most schools only offer European languages.
In terms of other subjects, universities don’t really show any preference towards specific subjects, although it it would be a good idea to take a humanity such as history since you will be learning some history throughout the course. As with the vast majority of university courses, you should have a strong pass in English and maths.
GCSE students
Start looking into Korean culture. At this stage, it is absolutely fine to just listen to the music, watch dramas, and maybe try to find a local restaurant. Keep it fun as a hobby, making absolutely sure that you’re not going to get bored of it, and start to immerse yourself in the culture as much as possible whilst still living in the UK. If you’d like to start looking into the language, try an app like LingoDeer or listen to the first few lessons on Talk To Me In Korean. It doesn’t need to be too serious or involve much studying, just enjoy it!
Choosing A-Levels
SOAS is the only university* that states a preference for an A-Level language, so overall it is probably a good idea to take a language if you think you can get an A/A*. However, a language is not required. Universities acknowledge that European languages are very different from Asian ones, so will understand if you’ve chosen not to do an A-Level because you didn’t enjoy the languages your school provided. I didn’t take an A-Level language (although did get an A in GCSE German taken a year early through a fast-track programme) and still got offers from all the unis including SOAS, so as long as the rest of your application is strong, you should be okay without a language.
Universities don’t state any preference for other subjects, although it is advisable to go for academic subjects, and preferably humanities. I took Biology, Chemistry, and Government & Politics, having G&P as my humanity and the sciences being well-respected academic subjects. Other than that, you pretty much have the freedom to study what you’d like to.
Whether or not you take an EPQ is an interesting debate. It does increase your UCAS points, and can lower your entry requirements, but you should remember that it is very time consuming (almost as much as taking a whole extra A-Level) and will last a full year. If you are taking four subjects, I would strongly advise against you taking an EPQ as it will probably do more harm than good, since it will take up so much more of your time. However, if you’re taking three and you think you can handle the workload, I would highly recommend it. I took an EPQ and really enjoyed it. It was a good way to show my interest in Korea in a way that was concrete, rather than just talking about how I like the music or films. And, it lowered both my SOAS and Sheffield entry requirements by a grade (providing I got a B or above in my EPQ). It also made me more confident in my decision to study Korean since I enjoyed my topic so much.
A-Level students
Now is the time to start taking your hobby more seriously! Of course, continue watching dramas and listening to the music you like, but try to take more of a note of the language whilst you do it. It’s worth looking into the history of Korea and East Asia a little so you can familiarise yourself with it and see whether you would enjoy that side of the Korean course too. Definitely try and get some language studying in. Whether you decide to enrol in classes or self-teach (I will make a post about good ways to do this in the future), it will look impressive on your personal statement and prove to the admissions tutor that you are serious and committed to the subject.
Talking of personal statements, take the time to make it as good as it can possibly be. Keep the fluff and padding to an absolute minimum, and really paint yourself in the best light you can. It might feel like you’re bragging, and will probably feel unnatural to be so shameless about it, but it’s what will get you into the course you want. Research the unis well, work out which course is best for you, go on taster days (I would highly recommend the SOAS Japan & Korea taster day for year 12 students which you can book here), open days, and applicant days. Enjoy the process! It is stressful but it should be fun and exciting too.
If you’d like more advice on choosing subjects or any of the subjects I took, my private messages are always open and I read all of your comments on this thread!
*the universities I am referring to are SOAS, Sheffield, and UCLan
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Hello ella
I am currently a year 12 student studying history, french and philosophy and i really want to study korean at uni. For making this thread to help others that are in your situation , i firstly want to say thank you. And secondly i was wondering if you could post a list of books (or articles or anything like that) youve read that you would recommend to someone that wants to study korean but doesnt have enough knowledge. The books can be about anything, history, philosophy etc. Im pretty adamant to study korean but i dont know enough. Thank you again
I am currently a year 12 student studying history, french and philosophy and i really want to study korean at uni. For making this thread to help others that are in your situation , i firstly want to say thank you. And secondly i was wondering if you could post a list of books (or articles or anything like that) youve read that you would recommend to someone that wants to study korean but doesnt have enough knowledge. The books can be about anything, history, philosophy etc. Im pretty adamant to study korean but i dont know enough. Thank you again
Original post by muntaha2001
Hello ella
I am currently a year 12 student studying history, french and philosophy and i really want to study korean at uni. For making this thread to help others that are in your situation , i firstly want to say thank you. And secondly i was wondering if you could post a list of books (or articles or anything like that) youve read that you would recommend to someone that wants to study korean but doesnt have enough knowledge. The books can be about anything, history, philosophy etc. Im pretty adamant to study korean but i dont know enough. Thank you again
I am currently a year 12 student studying history, french and philosophy and i really want to study korean at uni. For making this thread to help others that are in your situation , i firstly want to say thank you. And secondly i was wondering if you could post a list of books (or articles or anything like that) youve read that you would recommend to someone that wants to study korean but doesnt have enough knowledge. The books can be about anything, history, philosophy etc. Im pretty adamant to study korean but i dont know enough. Thank you again
Hi, no problem, I'm glad the thread has helped!
To be honest, I haven't done huge amounts of reading other than what I used in my EPQ so a lot of the research I've done has been quite specific. (If you'd be interested in my EPQ subject and the research I've done I'd be happy to talk more in depth about it and share my bibliography). I'm hoping to do a lot more general reading over the summer so hopefully I'll be able to write up a more comprehensive list once it's over, but just so you can have a flavour of the cultural stuff, here's a condensed list:
1. 'Who Ate Up All the Shinga?' by Park Wan-suh.
This is an autobiographical book which follows the writer's life growing up through some of the key historical events in Korea during the early-to-mid 20th century. It's a more personal look at what was going on at the time. You can buy it here
2. 'A Brief History of Korea, A Bird’s-eye View' by Young Ick Lew.
A paper/educational booklet that runs through Korean history from 500,000BCE to the 1990s in less than 50 pages. Admittedly much drier than Park Wan-suh's book but has a lot of good information. Unfortunately, I don't think it's accessible online anymore but I'm happy to email it to you if you send me a private message
3. 'South Korea - The Silent Cultural Superpower' by the BBC World Service
A podcast-style documentary about Korean history, politics, and the arts. It's a good run-through of the key events through the lens of art, with a big focus on how history has affected writing, music, and film, rather than just the 'factual' stuff. It's about an hour long in total, but the first 15mins of part two is largely explaining k-pop to people who don't know about it so I just skipped through that. Part one can be found here
4. 'Secrets Behind Korea's Economic Success'
I have seen the older version but the revised 2015 version can be found here. It's a documentary that looks at how much the Korean economy has changed since the Korean War and how they managed to grow so rapidly. I watched it to cram before my EPQ presentation and it was so helpful! It's an American documentary so it's quite dramatic haha but useful nonetheless.
5. The internet is your best friend! There's so much to read up on and so many sources out there that will be really helpful and better catered towards what you personally find interesting. Finding books and physical sources on topics other than the Korean War can be quite difficult since not many other things are taught or talked about over here, but luckily there is starting to be more interest so new documentaries are coming out all the time. It might also be worth trying to find some famous Korean authors and film makers if that interests you.
Sorry I couldn't offer more, but I hope it's a good starting point. It can be quite daunting seeing just how much information is out there, but I'm sure you'll enjoy learning more. Good luck with everything and send any other questions you have my way!
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helo ella,
thank you so much for taking your time to help1
P.S I would love if you made a post about your EPQ
helo ella,
thank you so much for taking your time to help1
P.S I would love if you made a post about your EPQ
Applicant Days and Picking a Firm/Insurance
After getting your offers, most unis will invite you to an applicant day where you can visit them again and get to know your specific department a bit better. The main purpose is to help you pick which uni you want to put as your firm choice, so there will be a fair bit of persuading on their part and a final opportunity to ask questions and look around for you. If you’re applying for Korean, it’s also when the big Sheffield v SOAS debate comes in!
If you’ve gone to any open days, you should already have an idea of what your priorities are in a university, whether that’s the accommodation, distance from home, teachers etc. Use the applicant days to properly evaluate each of your choices now you know exactly what you’re looking for. Personally, I made a table for the ones I visited looking at these criteria:
> Accommodation
> Staff
> Students
> Facilities
> Reputation
> Diversity
> Transport
> The city
> Student satisfaction
> Year abroad
> Employment
> Contact hours
and then ranked my unis out of 10 for each of them. At the end, I worked out an average and used this to help me make my decision. Of course, it’s important that the criteria you choose are specific to what you want so make sure you’ve thought it out before you start going to applicant days.
The Sheffield v SOAS Debate
Picking between these two unis is particularly difficult since the courses are almost identical and they’re both well-respected but they are completely different in pretty much every way other than that, making it so hard to pick which one to firm. This is my personal verdict on them based on the criteria I mentioned above:
Accommodation
Sheffield wins. Newly built with sizeable communal areas within the flats, en suite bathrooms, number of people per flat has a good maximum, located a short distance from the uni (about 20mins), affordable.
Staff
SOAS wins. Professors at both unis were knowledgable and approachable, however SOAS professors seemed slightly more experienced and I got the impression that they would be more supportive if I needed help. The language professor in particular left a good impression.
Students
Sheffield wins. They were all very enthusiastic about both the uni and the course but didn’t feel as though they were trying to force it or purposefully sell it to me (despite the glowing reviews!). SOAS students also sounded like they loved the course and had a lot of good things to say about the department as a whole but not quite as enthusiastic about the uni itself.
Facilities
Tie. Sheffield lacked in facilities for SEAS students since they make up such a small proportion of the student population but they do have the tandem learning (being paired with a native Korean student who's on their year abroad in the UK for language exchange) which is a huge bonus. SOAS has more facilities for Korean students but doesn’t have the same tandem system in the UK. As far as I could tell, they have a similar system during the year abroad, though.
Reputation
SOAS wins. Although both seem to have an equally good reputation in the UK, SOAS is world-renowned for specialist courses such as Korean, and have the departments to support that.
Diversity
SOAS wins. A huge range of ethnicities, religions, a lot of international students, and a good split of genders. I suppose that’s something that comes with London unis but it was quite different from Sheffield.
Transport
SOAS wins. Sheffield does have good transportation in comparison to other cities with the tram system being especially good and affordable, but nothing can really compare with the tube in London. It is expensive but so well connected that it’s worth it in my opinion. Since London is much closer to my hometown too, I’ll be saving money in that aspect.
The city
SOAS wins. This is purely down to personal preference, but I’ve always loved London and wanted to live there at some point in my life. Since it’s unlikely that I’ll be able to afford it in the future, it feels like the best time to do it. It is, however, worth noting that it's expensive and definitely not a student city so might be a little harder to socialise.
Student satisfaction
Sheffield wins. It’s one of the highest ranked unis for satisfaction in the UK, so whilst SOAS’s rating isn’t bad, it can’t compare to Sheffield.
Year abroad
Sheffield wins. Pretty much the same in terms of content and living arrangements, but Sheffield has a slight edge over SOAS since you can apply to six Korean unis (Korea Uni, Yonsei, Sogang, Hanyang, Sookmyung Women’s Uni, Sungkyungkwan) whereas SOAS only has partnerships with three (Korea Uni, Sogang, SNU **EDIT: SOAS now also offers Hankuk University of Foreign Studies**). There are downsides to that of course, so it depends how you look at it.
Employment
SOAS wins. The connections that come with being in London and being the top uni in the UK (and arguably Europe) for Korean gives SOAS the upper hand, especially when it comes to jobs overseas.
Contact hours
Tie. About 10hrs a week at both.
Final scores Sheffield: 8.2/10 SOAS: 8.8/10
So that’s my rather extensive run-down of my opinions of the two unis! I’d highly recommend that you do the same for each of the unis you visit - you’d be surprised how much you can forget between visits and it’s a good way to help you make your final decision. I have put SOAS as my firm and Sheffield as my insurance so now it’s all about working to meet my entry requirements.
I’m planning on writing a post or two about my EPQ and then I probably won’t be posting until after exams, but if you have any questions at all or want advice (I realise it’s almost time for starting personal statements!) then don’t hesitate to send me a PM. The EPQ posts should be out in a week or two but at the moment it’s taking me about three days just to write one post since I have to revise as well so please be patient, and I hope everyone’s exam prep is going well!
After getting your offers, most unis will invite you to an applicant day where you can visit them again and get to know your specific department a bit better. The main purpose is to help you pick which uni you want to put as your firm choice, so there will be a fair bit of persuading on their part and a final opportunity to ask questions and look around for you. If you’re applying for Korean, it’s also when the big Sheffield v SOAS debate comes in!
If you’ve gone to any open days, you should already have an idea of what your priorities are in a university, whether that’s the accommodation, distance from home, teachers etc. Use the applicant days to properly evaluate each of your choices now you know exactly what you’re looking for. Personally, I made a table for the ones I visited looking at these criteria:
> Accommodation
> Staff
> Students
> Facilities
> Reputation
> Diversity
> Transport
> The city
> Student satisfaction
> Year abroad
> Employment
> Contact hours
and then ranked my unis out of 10 for each of them. At the end, I worked out an average and used this to help me make my decision. Of course, it’s important that the criteria you choose are specific to what you want so make sure you’ve thought it out before you start going to applicant days.
The Sheffield v SOAS Debate
Picking between these two unis is particularly difficult since the courses are almost identical and they’re both well-respected but they are completely different in pretty much every way other than that, making it so hard to pick which one to firm. This is my personal verdict on them based on the criteria I mentioned above:
Accommodation
Sheffield wins. Newly built with sizeable communal areas within the flats, en suite bathrooms, number of people per flat has a good maximum, located a short distance from the uni (about 20mins), affordable.
Staff
SOAS wins. Professors at both unis were knowledgable and approachable, however SOAS professors seemed slightly more experienced and I got the impression that they would be more supportive if I needed help. The language professor in particular left a good impression.
Students
Sheffield wins. They were all very enthusiastic about both the uni and the course but didn’t feel as though they were trying to force it or purposefully sell it to me (despite the glowing reviews!). SOAS students also sounded like they loved the course and had a lot of good things to say about the department as a whole but not quite as enthusiastic about the uni itself.
Facilities
Tie. Sheffield lacked in facilities for SEAS students since they make up such a small proportion of the student population but they do have the tandem learning (being paired with a native Korean student who's on their year abroad in the UK for language exchange) which is a huge bonus. SOAS has more facilities for Korean students but doesn’t have the same tandem system in the UK. As far as I could tell, they have a similar system during the year abroad, though.
Reputation
SOAS wins. Although both seem to have an equally good reputation in the UK, SOAS is world-renowned for specialist courses such as Korean, and have the departments to support that.
Diversity
SOAS wins. A huge range of ethnicities, religions, a lot of international students, and a good split of genders. I suppose that’s something that comes with London unis but it was quite different from Sheffield.
Transport
SOAS wins. Sheffield does have good transportation in comparison to other cities with the tram system being especially good and affordable, but nothing can really compare with the tube in London. It is expensive but so well connected that it’s worth it in my opinion. Since London is much closer to my hometown too, I’ll be saving money in that aspect.
The city
SOAS wins. This is purely down to personal preference, but I’ve always loved London and wanted to live there at some point in my life. Since it’s unlikely that I’ll be able to afford it in the future, it feels like the best time to do it. It is, however, worth noting that it's expensive and definitely not a student city so might be a little harder to socialise.
Student satisfaction
Sheffield wins. It’s one of the highest ranked unis for satisfaction in the UK, so whilst SOAS’s rating isn’t bad, it can’t compare to Sheffield.
Year abroad
Sheffield wins. Pretty much the same in terms of content and living arrangements, but Sheffield has a slight edge over SOAS since you can apply to six Korean unis (Korea Uni, Yonsei, Sogang, Hanyang, Sookmyung Women’s Uni, Sungkyungkwan) whereas SOAS only has partnerships with three (Korea Uni, Sogang, SNU **EDIT: SOAS now also offers Hankuk University of Foreign Studies**). There are downsides to that of course, so it depends how you look at it.
Employment
SOAS wins. The connections that come with being in London and being the top uni in the UK (and arguably Europe) for Korean gives SOAS the upper hand, especially when it comes to jobs overseas.
Contact hours
Tie. About 10hrs a week at both.
Final scores Sheffield: 8.2/10 SOAS: 8.8/10
So that’s my rather extensive run-down of my opinions of the two unis! I’d highly recommend that you do the same for each of the unis you visit - you’d be surprised how much you can forget between visits and it’s a good way to help you make your final decision. I have put SOAS as my firm and Sheffield as my insurance so now it’s all about working to meet my entry requirements.
I’m planning on writing a post or two about my EPQ and then I probably won’t be posting until after exams, but if you have any questions at all or want advice (I realise it’s almost time for starting personal statements!) then don’t hesitate to send me a PM. The EPQ posts should be out in a week or two but at the moment it’s taking me about three days just to write one post since I have to revise as well so please be patient, and I hope everyone’s exam prep is going well!
(edited 5 years ago)
I’m not applying to uni (I’m in year 11) but I’ve found this thread really interesting to read
Good luck with your exams, I can’t wait to see how you find it!
Good luck with your exams, I can’t wait to see how you find it!
Original post by Toastiekid
I’m not applying to uni (I’m in year 11) but I’ve found this thread really interesting to read
Good luck with your exams, I can’t wait to see how you find it!
Good luck with your exams, I can’t wait to see how you find it!
I'm glad you found it interesting! Thank you, good luck with GCSEs
My EPQ Topic
This post will be all about my own EPQ topic, what I researched, whether I thought it was worth it, and the conclusion of my research. If you’re not interested in the actual content of my EPQ, there will be another post soon about how to come up with an EPQ question, how I suggest you go about research, how to write it, things I wish I’d done differently and other general tips/advice that apply to anyone who’s decided to take it. But, this post will mostly be about the actual content of my research, so if you don’t really care about Korea-Japan relations then feel free to skip this post!
Just for some background:
> The exam board I was with was Edexcel although I’m sure the structure is similar to AQA’s
> I chose to write a dissertation
> The official title is the Level 3 Extended Project Qualification if you’re looking for grade boundaries or specifications
> The time period I was actively taking lessons and writing my EPQ was between July 2017 and March 2018 (so about 9 months)
My Question
My question was ‘How has the Japanese colonisation of Korea impacted South Korean political discourse?’. Admittedly, it’s a bit of a mouthful and sounds intimidating but I definitely took me a while to come up with it. At the time of starting the EPQ process and formulating our questions, I hadn’t yet decided what I wanted to study at uni. I was torn between Korean, Japanese with Korean, and International Relations so I wanted a question that could easily apply to all three and that I could include in personal statements for any of the applications if need be. Of course, I also wanted it to be something that I was genuinely interested in and wouldn’t mind reading and writing about for almost a year, so I began thinking about my question with all of this in mind.
Initially, my question was ‘How has the Japanese colonisation of Korea impacted South Korean political culture’ but anyone who’s studied politics knows that measuring political culture is almost impossible unless you have access to lots of opinion polls and political analysis, which is not really something you can get hold of easily, especially when you’re not living in the country and can’t translate/effectively search in the language. If you’re writing an EPQ for a Korean application, I’d highly recommend you look into an aspect of the culture (whether that be art, music, social change etc.), politics, or history since it can be quite hard to show your knowledge of these things in personal statements through other means, so your EPQ topic can do that for you.
My Research and Findings
Researching for an EPQ is a process. It takes a lot of preliminary research before you even get started and you never really stop researching until you’ve written your whole dissertation so it can feel like it’s never-ending, however I have to say that the research was the most enjoyable aspect of the EPQ for me. I didn’t massively enjoy the writing itself, but doing the reading was for the most part very interesting, and I didn’t mind putting the time aside to do my research. That’s how you know you’ve chosen a question that’s good for you!
Without going into too much detail, I focused on three main areas: the economy, democracy, and comfort women. My approach for each of these areas changed a little depending on the availability of sources and the extent of any prior knowledge I had, so for issues such as the economy and comfort women my starting point was current events (which I already knew the basics of), and then I attempted to draw parallels with the history of the colonisation. For democracy, I started by looking at the key events and movements during/as a result of the colonisation and then linked that the modern-day developments, so I kind of did it in the reverse order.
To cut a very long story (dissertation) short, I concluded that it wasn’t necessarily specific actions or policies that have most impacted the political discourse of South Korea, but rather it was the way the Japanese treated Koreans that led to more deep-rooted changes in mindset and outlook which inevitably impacted the politics of the country. If you’re interested in choosing a similar question or are generally curious about this topic, you can find my bibliography here. Please read the full message at the top of the bibliography!
Was it worth it?
Absolutely. It will be different for everyone and depends on your situation, but for me it was invaluable. Practically, it made sense to do it. It lowered my entry requirements by a grade and was probably the part of my personal statement that made me stand out the most. It’s relatively easy to get a good grade (as long as you put the hours in) so it looks good on any applications or CVs too. But beyond that, I really grew to love the research process and learning about my topic, and to be honest I do miss it a little bit. The stress and time pressures that came along with it were definitely not enjoyable, but it was rewarding and challenging in the best way possible. If you think you can handle the workload and think it will be beneficial to your application, I would 100% recommend doing an EPQ.
My mark was 48/54 (this is before exam board marking but after internal moderation, so my mark could change) which according to the 2017 grade boundaries is a high A, but my actual grade will depend on the 2018 boundaries. I will happily post my full EPQ and presentation slides after results day if you would like a set of examples to work from as there seems to be a distinct lack of good examples out there! If you’re starting your EPQ soon, really take your time choosing your question and enjoy the process
[Requested by @muntaha2001 PM me if you'd like a post on a specific topic!]
This post will be all about my own EPQ topic, what I researched, whether I thought it was worth it, and the conclusion of my research. If you’re not interested in the actual content of my EPQ, there will be another post soon about how to come up with an EPQ question, how I suggest you go about research, how to write it, things I wish I’d done differently and other general tips/advice that apply to anyone who’s decided to take it. But, this post will mostly be about the actual content of my research, so if you don’t really care about Korea-Japan relations then feel free to skip this post!
Just for some background:
> The exam board I was with was Edexcel although I’m sure the structure is similar to AQA’s
> I chose to write a dissertation
> The official title is the Level 3 Extended Project Qualification if you’re looking for grade boundaries or specifications
> The time period I was actively taking lessons and writing my EPQ was between July 2017 and March 2018 (so about 9 months)
My Question
My question was ‘How has the Japanese colonisation of Korea impacted South Korean political discourse?’. Admittedly, it’s a bit of a mouthful and sounds intimidating but I definitely took me a while to come up with it. At the time of starting the EPQ process and formulating our questions, I hadn’t yet decided what I wanted to study at uni. I was torn between Korean, Japanese with Korean, and International Relations so I wanted a question that could easily apply to all three and that I could include in personal statements for any of the applications if need be. Of course, I also wanted it to be something that I was genuinely interested in and wouldn’t mind reading and writing about for almost a year, so I began thinking about my question with all of this in mind.
Initially, my question was ‘How has the Japanese colonisation of Korea impacted South Korean political culture’ but anyone who’s studied politics knows that measuring political culture is almost impossible unless you have access to lots of opinion polls and political analysis, which is not really something you can get hold of easily, especially when you’re not living in the country and can’t translate/effectively search in the language. If you’re writing an EPQ for a Korean application, I’d highly recommend you look into an aspect of the culture (whether that be art, music, social change etc.), politics, or history since it can be quite hard to show your knowledge of these things in personal statements through other means, so your EPQ topic can do that for you.
My Research and Findings
Researching for an EPQ is a process. It takes a lot of preliminary research before you even get started and you never really stop researching until you’ve written your whole dissertation so it can feel like it’s never-ending, however I have to say that the research was the most enjoyable aspect of the EPQ for me. I didn’t massively enjoy the writing itself, but doing the reading was for the most part very interesting, and I didn’t mind putting the time aside to do my research. That’s how you know you’ve chosen a question that’s good for you!
Without going into too much detail, I focused on three main areas: the economy, democracy, and comfort women. My approach for each of these areas changed a little depending on the availability of sources and the extent of any prior knowledge I had, so for issues such as the economy and comfort women my starting point was current events (which I already knew the basics of), and then I attempted to draw parallels with the history of the colonisation. For democracy, I started by looking at the key events and movements during/as a result of the colonisation and then linked that the modern-day developments, so I kind of did it in the reverse order.
To cut a very long story (dissertation) short, I concluded that it wasn’t necessarily specific actions or policies that have most impacted the political discourse of South Korea, but rather it was the way the Japanese treated Koreans that led to more deep-rooted changes in mindset and outlook which inevitably impacted the politics of the country. If you’re interested in choosing a similar question or are generally curious about this topic, you can find my bibliography here. Please read the full message at the top of the bibliography!
Was it worth it?
Absolutely. It will be different for everyone and depends on your situation, but for me it was invaluable. Practically, it made sense to do it. It lowered my entry requirements by a grade and was probably the part of my personal statement that made me stand out the most. It’s relatively easy to get a good grade (as long as you put the hours in) so it looks good on any applications or CVs too. But beyond that, I really grew to love the research process and learning about my topic, and to be honest I do miss it a little bit. The stress and time pressures that came along with it were definitely not enjoyable, but it was rewarding and challenging in the best way possible. If you think you can handle the workload and think it will be beneficial to your application, I would 100% recommend doing an EPQ.
My mark was 48/54 (this is before exam board marking but after internal moderation, so my mark could change) which according to the 2017 grade boundaries is a high A, but my actual grade will depend on the 2018 boundaries. I will happily post my full EPQ and presentation slides after results day if you would like a set of examples to work from as there seems to be a distinct lack of good examples out there! If you’re starting your EPQ soon, really take your time choosing your question and enjoy the process
[Requested by @muntaha2001 PM me if you'd like a post on a specific topic!]
(edited 5 years ago)
Updates
Exams are over!! It's been a month of absolute hell but it's finally done and I couldn't be more relieved. Honestly they didn't go that well... I'm feeling relatively confident about government & politics especially since the questions in my second paper were dream questions for me, but the sciences were pretty terrible. My current estimate is A in gov pol, B in biology, and C in chemistry. It might be enough to get me into Sheffield but only time will tell. I'm going to try not to worry about it too much since there's nothing I can do about it anymore (which is maybe the scariest thing about it). The countdown to results day begins!
But, I'm not really sure what to do with this thread. I might post elsewhere about how to write an EPQ since someone asked for that, and leave a link here. Other than that, I can't think of much else that I want to write about or would be helpful until after results day when I'll post my personal statement and EPQ resources. If there's anything you'd like to hear about, please tell me and I'll happily write about it, especially if you need advice on applications. I'm always around through PMs if you'd like to chat there.
Well done to everyone that's finishing up exams and I hope everything goes well for you come August <3
Exams are over!! It's been a month of absolute hell but it's finally done and I couldn't be more relieved. Honestly they didn't go that well... I'm feeling relatively confident about government & politics especially since the questions in my second paper were dream questions for me, but the sciences were pretty terrible. My current estimate is A in gov pol, B in biology, and C in chemistry. It might be enough to get me into Sheffield but only time will tell. I'm going to try not to worry about it too much since there's nothing I can do about it anymore (which is maybe the scariest thing about it). The countdown to results day begins!
But, I'm not really sure what to do with this thread. I might post elsewhere about how to write an EPQ since someone asked for that, and leave a link here. Other than that, I can't think of much else that I want to write about or would be helpful until after results day when I'll post my personal statement and EPQ resources. If there's anything you'd like to hear about, please tell me and I'll happily write about it, especially if you need advice on applications. I'm always around through PMs if you'd like to chat there.
Well done to everyone that's finishing up exams and I hope everything goes well for you come August <3
Original post by lucieol
This was an interesting read! I'm applying for Japanese but I can relate to how annoying it is with some people being like ''why do you want to do that?!''. Glad to hear things are getting better for you though.
Good luck with your future
Good luck with your future
It seems like a lot of people doing more niche subjects have similar experiences which is a shame, but it's good to know we're not alone! Thank you, good luck to you too
Results Day and EPQ Resources
So it was the day we'd all been waiting for yesterday and the results are in... I got into SOAS! I'm absolutely over the moon and still in shock to be honest. I'd completely convinced myself that I only had a chance at getting into Sheffield (and a small chance at that) and was getting excited to move up north. In my head, SOAS was a very far reach and felt unattainable so I kind of pushed it to the side and tried to forget about it. But I got in somehow! I got exactly the grades I predicted in my last post, which in theory shouldn't have gotten me into SOAS but I think the A in my EPQ helped me out a lot. I feel slightly disappointed about chemistry because I worked so hard to try and get my grade up, but honestly at this point all that matters is that I'm going to uni. I hope everyone else who got results is happy
I've written another thread of EPQ tips and essentially how to go about writing it. On there I also have all the EPQ examples you could possibly need: my full EPQ, project proposal, bibliography, presentation, how I structured my notes, and how I used my sources. You can find it here.
So it was the day we'd all been waiting for yesterday and the results are in... I got into SOAS! I'm absolutely over the moon and still in shock to be honest. I'd completely convinced myself that I only had a chance at getting into Sheffield (and a small chance at that) and was getting excited to move up north. In my head, SOAS was a very far reach and felt unattainable so I kind of pushed it to the side and tried to forget about it. But I got in somehow! I got exactly the grades I predicted in my last post, which in theory shouldn't have gotten me into SOAS but I think the A in my EPQ helped me out a lot. I feel slightly disappointed about chemistry because I worked so hard to try and get my grade up, but honestly at this point all that matters is that I'm going to uni. I hope everyone else who got results is happy
I've written another thread of EPQ tips and essentially how to go about writing it. On there I also have all the EPQ examples you could possibly need: my full EPQ, project proposal, bibliography, presentation, how I structured my notes, and how I used my sources. You can find it here.
Original post by umbrellala
Results Day and EPQ Resources
So it was the day we'd all been waiting for yesterday and the results are in... I got into SOAS! I'm absolutely over the moon and still in shock to be honest. I'd completely convinced myself that I only had a chance at getting into Sheffield (and a small chance at that) and was getting excited to move up north. In my head, SOAS was a very far reach and felt unattainable so I kind of pushed it to the side and tried to forget about it. But I got in somehow! I got exactly the grades I predicted in my last post, which in theory shouldn't have gotten me into SOAS but I think the A in my EPQ helped me out a lot. I feel slightly disappointed about chemistry because I worked so hard to try and get my grade up, but honestly at this point all that matters is that I'm going to uni. I hope everyone else who got results is happy
I've written another thread of EPQ tips and essentially how to go about writing it. On there I also have all the EPQ examples you could possibly need: my full EPQ, project proposal, bibliography, presentation, how I structured my notes, and how I used my sources. You can find it here.
So it was the day we'd all been waiting for yesterday and the results are in... I got into SOAS! I'm absolutely over the moon and still in shock to be honest. I'd completely convinced myself that I only had a chance at getting into Sheffield (and a small chance at that) and was getting excited to move up north. In my head, SOAS was a very far reach and felt unattainable so I kind of pushed it to the side and tried to forget about it. But I got in somehow! I got exactly the grades I predicted in my last post, which in theory shouldn't have gotten me into SOAS but I think the A in my EPQ helped me out a lot. I feel slightly disappointed about chemistry because I worked so hard to try and get my grade up, but honestly at this point all that matters is that I'm going to uni. I hope everyone else who got results is happy
I've written another thread of EPQ tips and essentially how to go about writing it. On there I also have all the EPQ examples you could possibly need: my full EPQ, project proposal, bibliography, presentation, how I structured my notes, and how I used my sources. You can find it here.
Congrats!
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