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Intelligence- Are Academic grades a measure of ones abilities?

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I dont know what school you are at, but most of the time the students who do academically well are the ones who end up being given zero attention because the school can already rely on them to do well and boost their scores.

Reply 41

llama-beans

TL;DR, but in answer to the thread title: no. Some people struggle with exams, and if you just happen to be having a bad day on exam day for whatever reason, you can completely mess up your grade etcetera.

Reply 42

kpwxx

In summary; usually.

Smarter people usually get better grades. But not always, by any means, cause there are other factors. And not always in every area, so I think it's hard to get a measure of 'intelligence', you have to split it in to 'intelligence in science' etc. etc.

Reply 43

Physics Enemy

Original post by EggmanD

In general i was calling IQ tests and exams useless lol

If I get 10A*'s at GCSE, 5 As at A-Level, SS in STEP and get a 1st from Cambridge, but spend my life whacking off over porn, then yes it's useless. But intelligence isn't ever defined by how much you use it. There's the concept of not using one's intelligence. The idea is you actually have it, to waste.

Original post by EggmanD

Yes what im saying could be arrogant, but from my point of view limiting yourself in a small studio for a pittance is a moronic choice when you can limit yourself in a big digital company for more money.

It's sound advice IMO, sure, but if his aim/motivations lie in the 'lesser' option then he's set on that. It's not because he can't see the merits of another option. If he hates the idea of working in a company, then it's hard to change that (for example). It's not because his brain doesn't understand that more money is to be made there. I'm sure he knows that 3x > x.

Original post by EggmanD

Now, do you;

A) work in a studio like anyone else could for a living wage hardly using the skills you have and enjoy the setting but not the creative freedom or
B) work in a job where your motivation is not as high and you dont enjoy it too much but with the skills you have you can earn double to 10x the amount of money and then save for your own studio where you set your own creative freedoms.

The stupid choice is A. He is both impatient and foolish content being second best and ignoring his potential to succeed. Even if he is not interested in money and he is looking for the satisfaction of creation, B will give him a hundred times what A would.

If you're motivated by money and status then you go for B, if you're motivated by self-creativity/freedom/setting then you opt for A. If you don't like working under people then you're likely to go for A. Even if you see the long term potential of Option B being converted to Option A later on, if you don't want to go through the process of B first due to apathy, then again he chooses A.

My point is, it's not a question of not realising what's on offer, but merely choosing what he prefers. If for example he failed to see that he could make a lot of money via B and then convert to A later, then yes that's a deficiency on his part.

Reply 44

TWF

Original post by Annoying-Mouse

No, they aren't. Maybe in TSR but in the real world only 1 in 4 entries - 26.7% - received the top grade (then A) at A level.

Of course I was referring to it literally, NOT. I was referring to the record results as of late, didn't think I needed to explain it, but there..... :rolleyes:

Reply 45

User414413

Original post by TWF

Of course I was referring to it literally, NOT. I was referring to the record results as of late, didn't think I needed to explain it, but there..... :rolleyes:

Obviously, I know what you was referring to. But, it was to hyperbolic for my liking.

Reply 46

jolteon

between people who purt in the same amotunt of effort, it is a measure of intellect with respect to a given subject. between people with the same intellect it is a measure of the amount of effort put into the work/tests.

Reply 47

TWF

Original post by Annoying-Mouse

Obviously, I know what you was referring to. But, it was to hyperbolic for my liking.

Pointless post.

Reply 48

User414413

Original post by TWF

Pointless post.

Ironic.

Reply 49

TWF

Original post by Annoying-Mouse

Ironic.

My post's point was to point out the pointlessness of your post. What was yours if you already knew what I meant?

Reply 50

jolteon

i should poiint out that if you look at the grades y'all claim to get, it''s fairy obviosu that good academic grades are not evidential of intelligence.

Reply 51

KingMessi

Well. Yes. They are a measure, but not a full measure. Other factors that will affect ones grades are:

Parental support
Economic status, and hence, quality of school
Quality of teaching

However, cleverer children will tend to get better grades, so...

Reply 52

Mr. Gutsy

I don't think so. I know a lot of people who are generally intelligent, but they're just lazy and can't channel their capacity for thought into something productive. I tend to think it all comes down to their brain chemistry, or possibly environmental factors. I know I could've done better in school had I been mentored in some way about work ethics, or if my parents took an active interest in my education.

Ultimately, I don't think there's any solid way of measuring one's intelligence in all respects.

Reply 53

Emor

Meh...
I can't stand people who won't let go of the delusion they're good at a field/subject despite failing it. Just because you know some HTML and got a C in ICT at GCSE doesn't mean it's a failed system(an example I've heard from someone).
I do think some people can get high grades in subjects that they're not particularly good at, esp. at GCSE level.
I'd not even make academic qualifications a criteria when I wanted to assess someone as a potential friend. But as a potential applicant to an academic establishment? Obviously, it would be.
TBH, I didn't really read all of your post but I think that's what you were getting at.
EMZ=]

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