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73% Of British Would be Unhappy If Britain Became A White Minority State

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You can be there for as long as you wish to work there. Retirement there becomes very difficult however.

barely any of them stay there for long. i lived in dubai for 2 years and then left... with most people they just move there temporarily and then leave. and then for people who stay for long (which is rare anyway), it is hard to get emirati citizenship if you are not an arab

anyways they needed the immigration. that was the whole point of them doing all that. they are still a backward country, they might have the money but they dont have the skills to make their own buildings or run their own schools, so obviously they need foreigners to temporarily live there and do everything for them.

Reply 61

maghreblover

Original post by AClockworkOrange

Speak for yourself.

Because you would not mind yourself does not mean many other Nigerians wouldn't. Read my post, I never said all Nigerians, nor did I say most Nigerians, I said many. And I have very many friends who would have a problem with Ghanaians becoming the dominant group in Nigeria, so that is a fact. History supports my point of view also, in case you were unaware of the 'Ghana must go' episode where hundreds of Ghanaians were kicked out of Nigeria by Nigerians.

I am, actually, speaking for myself and stating the factual view of many Nigerians. I never said it was your opinion so don't start getting all :lolwut:

about it.

Reply 62

effofex

Original post by Nick Longjohnson

Figure of speech brochacha.

My point is you cannot compare the UK and the UAE. Believe me. They are two completely different systems. The UAE NEEDS immigrants to function, and that is the reason they are there. I lived there for 10 years. Expats are there to do a job, that is all. That is written in the contract (which are 2-3 years). No government benefits exits, and you are classed as vastly inferior to the 'locals'. My friend from high school was born there and grew up there, and his parents have been there for 30 years. Is he anywhere close to citizenship? Hell no!

The UK does not require immigrants at all to function, and yet the general policy seems to be 'the more the merrier'. I just cannot understand this, that is all.

In theory the UK does not require any expatriates to function. In practice some employers specify there is a shortage of labour in some industries. Often, since London is an international hub for financial services, employers find some of the best talent outside the UK, although many UK-born residents may still be capable of performing the said jobs.

I'm not sure where you get this 'the more the merrier' principle from. Any EU national may come to the UK and likewise any UK national may immigrate to the EU, though since most EU nationals come under the 'White' umbrella, surely in 'ethnic' terms this is not so much of a problem for the people surveyed, right?

Reply 63

rylit91

Original post by effofex

I doubt that. Most are construction workers.

Immigrants to the UK range from those completely lacking in qualifications to those who are more highly qualified than any British national. Some come with a pittance in savings whilst others are richer than 99.99% of British nationals.

Also, how do immigrants 'erode' a nation's history? Surely they just become a part of it, similar to the way that immigrants have become a part of the United States' history?

That's the most ludicrous comparison. America is made up of immigrants otherwise it would still be a nation of 'red indians'. 'Immigrants' founded their nation. Our history isn't made up of immigrants, it is made up of the English/British and don't give me all this tosh about Vikings, Normans etc etc. Most white Brits can trace their history back to at least 1066 and further. I have French Huguenot ancestors who came over here in the 1700s, so I am quite an authority on them in this country having researched this myself. About 50,000 Huguenots came here and while that was a drop in the water genetically, they played a huge part in turning this country from an importer to an exporter. They came here with endless skills. Mine were silk weavers.

With regard to eroding our culture, this is similar to a thread I saw the other day about changing one's name and disregarding their past. People come here with their own culture and implement and continue it. This is a fact. Concerning my Huguenots, again: they came here and had their own French Protestant churches. This proves my point about continuing one's culture. However, within one or two generations they began baptising/marrying/burying in English churches, married English people (my family certainly did) and assimilated seamlessly into society. Arabs/Asians/Africans don't do this.

Moreover, The Huguenots were of the same religion as Britain, and were welcomed and did not agitate society. Quite the opposite to today.

I wouldn't say that the vast majority of immigrants are more educated than the average British national. Perhaps the odd handful who come here to sponge off our Universities, or are here to do business and bring some money to this country.

Reply 64

AClockworkOrange

Original post by maghreblover

Well tbh I think, you're a bad person, if you really believe that, who cares really? People are people.

Reply 65

Law123mus

Ohh here we ****ing go again! The daily fail has printed another one of it's scaremongering anti everything that isn't white agnlo english, educated at eton, part of the aristocracy, has feet smaller than a size 9.3, owns a golden retriever that is exactly 5 years old, sleeps upside down and has never left the fridge door open!
All this if britain becomes a white minority state is bull****. At the moment 90% of the uk population is white, 86% is white british! If these numbers were at only 50% british or even 70% british then I'd understand, but they are not. I'm sick about hearing of the apparent atrocities the 'immigrants' have brought to this country. There is no reason for this out right scaremongering other than unjustifiable biggotry. Ok so we've seen a lot of immigration in the past few years. Big deal, this trend will not last for ever. This is very much the peak of it. The uk is not becoming pakistan or nigeria or poland. It is still the uk. It is still mostly white. It is still full of the spiteful, arrogant, ignorant fools that have inhabited it for centuries. Get over it and move on!

EDIT: I don't mean all the people in the uk are ignorant and spiteful and what not. Only a minority (no pun intended). The rest of us are ok :biggrin:

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Reply 66

username549578

Isnt this a normal thing though. People are always moving around the world so the ethnic make up of countries will obviously change.

Aborigine/native american/southafrican person: Hey look, those white people just moved next door
Person 2: Dont worry, Im sure that will be the last of them...

Reply 67

No Man

Original post by effofex

Any EU national may come to the UK and likewise any UK national may immigrate to the EU, though since most EU nationals come under the 'White' umbrella, surely in 'ethnic' terms this is not so much of a problem for the people surveyed, right?

If the EU became one country (which it won't), I'm sure no one would mind. However, I'm still sure the 73% would still be unhappy if white British people became the minority in their country, and white Germans/Romanians/Italians became the majority.

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Reply 68

CharlieBee_90

Daily Mail reader

If you want to put a stop to this long and painful lemming attitude of successive governments vote for the BNP, or at least take a look at their website, you just might be pleasantly suprised, they've been wanting this for years.

See I would support the government putting stronger limits on immigration, if only it would stop people from turning to the far right. Yes we need to control the population, but voting for a party which openly advocates deporting all ethnic minorities, regardless of whether they were born here or not is NOT the way to do it.

Quotes like the above are worrying.

Reply 69

CombineHarvester

Original post by Teveth

Britain is multi-racial, whether you right wing Tories like it or not. Get used to it.

You and Margaret Thatcher should fight it out on TSR.

Reply 70

effofex

Original post by rylit91

With regard to eroding our culture, this is similar to a thread I saw the other day about changing one's name and disregarding their past. People come here with their own culture and implement and continue it. This is a fact. Concerning my Huguenots, again: they came here and had their own French Protestant churches. This proves my point about continuing one's culture. However, within one or two generations they began baptising/marrying/burying in English churches, married English people (my family certainly did) and assimilated seamlessly into society. Arabs/Asians/Africans don't do this.

Moreover, The Huguenots were of the same religion as Britain, and were welcomed and did not agitate society. Quite the opposite to today.

I wouldn't say that the vast majority of immigrants are more educated than the average British national. Perhaps the odd handful who come here to sponge off our Universities, or are here to do business and bring some money to this country.

Give me an example of people 'implementing their own culture'. The UK is a nation where we have freedom of religion, freedom of dress and freedom of association. Most children of expatriates are educated alongside children who are born to British-born people and thus their cultures tend to converge, since they spend alot of time with each other. How do Arabs, Asians and Africans not do this? Surely there are quite a few of them in London?

I worked in a workplace in London where there are quite literally people from every continent on the planet bar Antarctica. There were not problems of cohesion at all. People of multiple ethnicities working alongside each other is very common in London, especially in industries like investment banking, management consultancy, corporate law, accountancy, pharmaceuticals, engineering, biotech research etc.

People of 'mixed race' are the fastest-growing 'ethnic group' within the Greater London Area - surely this is indicative of greater integration? There is a vast spectrum of qualifications that expatriates hold. Many expatriates head up research in UK-based university departments. How does this class as 'sponging' off UK universities? Also, many expatriates are temporary migrants and do not intend to remain in the UK for over a decade, which is often the case for Eastern European migrants. I am a non-EU migrant but will be moving to the Netherlands next year. Similarly, there are no restrictions on UK nationals travelling to and working in EU countries.

Reply 71

Broderss

Why is Multiracialism a good thing? Surely it's a neutral thing, unless you want to be racist about it (which makes it a bad thing because then you are racist)?

Reply 72

Profesh

Original post by Teveth

Britain is multi-racial, whether you right wing Tories like it or not. Get used to it.

73% of the country are Tory?! I suppose someone had better notify the coalition of this groundbreaking statistic, since it renders their continued existence nothing less than an affront to democracy.

Reply 73

Gnobe

I think this is necessary IMO. The world is becoming increasingly mixed raced and globalised and I think Britain needs to follow all this.

A minority-majority nation sounds peaceful. Because then we'd all blend and all become mixed raced. :biggrin:

Reply 74

maghreblover

Original post by AClockworkOrange

Well tbh I think, you're a bad person, if you really believe that, who cares really? People are people.

Well, great for you. You're entitled to your opinion. The people that matter to me know I'm not a bad person. :wink:

Reply 75

ish90an

The immigration cap from the Tories doesn't really solve the big issue, which is that businesses feel they have to hire high-skilled workers from abroad, often at great expense, because of the perception that Britain's own HE system is not producing the same quality. It does not even scratch upon immigration despite the claims, since a lot of it comes from within the EU. All in all, it is just a token policy to get the Daily Mail reading BNP voting audience placated.

Reply 76

Ocassus

Original post by CombineHarvester

You and Margaret Thatcher should fight it out on TSR.

Hell no, I want the first swing.

Reply 77

PlanetEuropa

Original post by Gnobe

What a load of utter tosh. The world is NOT becoming more mixed race and multicultural, ONLY white countries are.

And on the contrary the population of Africa, Asia etc will have exploded in the next 50 years. The ONLY place that is becoming more multicultural is white countries.

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Reply 78

No Man

Original post by PlanetEuropa

And China.

Reply 79

The Cornerstone

I'm more worried about the claim that Britain will become a white minority state. I don't see it happening myself and I would like to know where people got this from.