Poorer students will now get 2 free years uni. another attack on middle income family

1) I doubt the cut off point is £10,000.
2) Yes, coming from a family with a higher income does put you in a better position to pay off your student debts. You got a headstart. Children from poor families are automatically at a disadvantage to you.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/6989177.stm

The way me and my Mum see it, is that once your 18 you're an adult so therefore you should not have to still be under the influence of your parents when it comes down to means testing. It's not like you have to pay it up front, you pay it when you earn a certain amount (£15,000 for 2011 entry, £21,000 for 2012 entry) and then its not that much. You are having an independent life which you parents income shouldn't make a difference in. My parents aren't going to be giving me money, so I'll get a job when I get to uni and use my little savings to have enough money. Why should your parents income make a difference (unless you are ridiculously rich and your parents will actually pay all of your fees and give you loads of money)

My Parents pay my tuition fees and we are not rich at all - in fact i am eligible for the full maintenance grant - it's not just the rich parents that can afford to pay fees- i am not saying they should, just they could. All about prioritising.

Can I just ask why we would get a headstart? Our parents aren't going to give us money. We will only have what we have earnt and paying it back comes from us when we have a job. Nothing to do with our parents, their income and background.And that quote is about differences in achievement at primary school and at GCSE's. What has this to do with university and the ability to pay back funds when you have a job? More than likely I will earn less after going to university than some of this which come from a lower income family. So they will then have more money than me because they will be in a better paid job yet still have less to pay back. Where is the fairness in that? I will be paying back for longer than them just because I come from a middle income family.

Yes but there are many other things which are more important than my tuition fees. They have to pay for mortgages and pay off cards and stuff after bringing me up and they still have to pay for everything for my brother. They see it as I'm an adult so then it is my responsibility.

It has everything to do with your parents, their income and your background. As shown by the article, the gap grows and grows. Because you are not from a poor family your attainment is much higher than it would have been if you were...and the difference increases with education. You are more able to succeed because of your background.

Statistically, (because thats what is used- statistics) you will not be out done by somebody from a poor family.

Yes but you are still talking about gaps in education, not money. No where in that article does it link money and university. The ability to pay for your university education once you get a job after the degree has nothing to do with your parents. Maybe your ability at university and education but not the ability to pay it back when you get a job. If the gap is already large before university surely the money would be better off spend stopping this before they get to uni e.g. primary school. Just because they are being paid for two years doesn't mean that they will do better once at uni.

More than likely I will earn less after going to university than some of this which come from a lower income family. So they will then have more money than me because they will be in a better paid job yet still have less to pay back. Where is the fairness in that?

Does the link between money and university really need to be pointed out?

If somebody is disadvantaged educationally, they are going to get a worse degree than they otherwise would have...meaning that yes, their ability to pay it back has got something to do with their parents and their background

The ability to get an education is directly linked to the ability to get a job which is directly linked to the ability to earn money.

Your ability to earn money is much higher than it would have been had you been born poor.

How the hell is this an attack on "middle income families"? Nothing has changed for you. There is no disadvantage to you here. Unless you consider poor people to be your enemy, of course. Helping someone out is not attacking everyone else.

As I said before, then surely the money would be better off spent before there was this difference in education ability.

How? what on? Do you not think that if they knew how to close the gap they would? Do you think it is done with new textbooks/ a few extra staff hanging around? It is a home thing...I suppose they could give poor people big tax breaks and a **** load of benefits to close the gap, but you would complain about that aswell wouldnt you.