Sudanese woman flogged & humiliated

cba to join you tube - what's she getting whipped for - wearing trousers?

Really because I looked on the SUNA website and there's no mention of this, come to think of it actually, it looked like she was getting a belting, this is not flogging

Well I am not fully sure, I thought it was the same case as the one in the ask a muslim thread.

Why not? Islam allows a judge to punish those that are causing social disintegration. The judge ruling was perfectly Islamic (assuming he has enough evidence). The evidence Islam requires is sometimes laughable and the evidence it denies is also quite laughable.

What is the purpose of your last statement?

Okay. I might PM you about this later, I've got a lot of interesting questions to ask

Well I am not fully sure, I thought it was the same case as the one in the ask a muslim thread.

Discretionary punishment means exactly what it says. The Judge himself (or herself, if you are a follower of the hanafi madhab) is also human and can make mistakes.

It would also be correct if the judge gave her a fine of £10, similarly, it would have been perfectly acceptable if the punishment was harsher.

Yeah I read that today. BTW it is NOT a Muslim Sharia Law. It is just a law that the Northern Sudanese made up.

I'm just looking to clarify your position here, without passing any judgement on it.
Are you saying that religion should be followed to the letter, and not questioned, because it is a religion?

And are you saying that because the judge is a judge, his opinion is always correct, and his decisions should not be questioned?

Doesn't look like it's made up law, where is your proof for this?

What I mean is that if you are a Muslim, for example, then you should follow Islam. I understand that not everyone is perfect but that is very different from knowing something is haraam [forbidden] and you still do it in any case while arguing you are right.

I don't say this because it is a "religion", I just believe that being a Muslim and opposing certain clear-cut Islamic rulings is highly hypocritical. You either are a Muslim completely or you are not, I emphasise on this point because we can see in our modern society what "picking and choosing" does to a religion.

His or her opinion is not always correct, far from it. What I am trying to get across is the fact that the judge has the option of being flexible because it is a discretionary punishment.

No it's a law. It is not Sharia Law though. People don't understand the truth and meaning behind the Sharia Law.

how predictable. yet another one of your threads bashing religion, whilst using inaccurate details. The split of Sudan is not due to this "Islamic Revolution" you speak of.

Another one of my threads? You say that like I churn them out at a Lovely88 rate. In fact I don't recall making any other threads bashing religion.

Both of Sudans civil wars are largely down to the Arab Muslim dominated north (the politically stronger of the two) marginalizing the non-Arab south. The south has continually fought against the instillation of Islamic law and made progress until al-Bashir and his "revolution" overthrew the current government and implemented (his own?) Sharia. Eventually a treaty was signed granting the south autonomy but this coming year there will be a referendum on as to whether the South will secede and some people fear it won't hence the "take us back to the stone age" comments in the article. While the "revolution" or enforcement of Islamic Law might not be the sole cause it's certainly one of the biggest.

Another one of my threads? You say that like I churn them out at a Lovely88 rate. In fact I don't recall making any other threads bashing religion.

Both of Sudans civil wars are largely down to the Arab Muslim dominated north (the politically stronger of the two) marginalizing the non-Arab south. The south has continually fought against the instillation of Islamic law and made progress until al-Bashir and his "revolution" overthrew the current government and implemented (his own?) Sharia. Eventually a treaty was signed granting the south autonomy but this coming year there will be a referendum on as to whether the South will secede and some people fear it won't hence the "take us back to the stone age" comments in the article. While the "revolution" or enforcement of Islamic Law might not be the sole cause it's certainly one of the biggest.

She's getting flogged for adultery and or running a brothel not wearing trousers......

Isn't the majority of Sudan Muslim anyway, so i don't know what you're talking about "splitting the country in two".

about splitting the country:
sudan is (crudely speaking) made up of muslim arabs in the north and christian blacks in the south- i think. And there's been a civil war going on for ages so they're thinking that splitting the country up might resolve some issues