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Diffraction grating question - help needed please

4. A diffraction grating is designed with a lit width of 0.83 micrometers. When used in a spectrometer to view light of wavelength 430nm, diffracted beams are observed at angles of 14 degrees 55' and 50 degrees 40' to the zero order beam.

a.Assuming the low-angle diffracted beam is the first order beam, calculate the number of lines per mm on the grating.

b. explain why there is no diffracted beam between the two observed beams - what is the order for the beam of 50 degrees 40'

i do not know how to even start/attempt this question
can anyone guide me to which ever part of the question ?
no help is too little
many thanks
Original post by sixthformer
4. A diffraction grating is designed with a lit width of 0.83 micrometers. When used in a spectrometer to view light of wavelength 430nm, diffracted beams are observed at angles of 14 degrees 55' and 50 degrees 40' to the zero order beam.

a.Assuming the low-angle diffracted beam is the first order beam, calculate the number of lines per mm on the grating.

b. explain why there is no diffracted beam between the two observed beams - what is the order for the beam of 50 degrees 40'


You are given
dd, the "slit width", which for a grating they probably mean the grating spacing.
λ\lambda the wavelength of the light, and
θ\theta=14"55' for the 1st order diffraction.
The 1st order (where n=1) is the one where a single whole wavelength fits in the space AB in the diagram, causing the beams to be in phase and produce constructive interference; and a bright fringe.
The formula is nλ=dsinθ n\lambda = d sin \theta
The next angle given must be for the case where n=2 and there are two wavelengths difference between the beams.
For the question, you are just asked for how many lines per mm there are on the grating. As you are told in the question that the "slit width" is 0.83 micrometers, the number per mm is 1width\frac{1}{width} where the "width" is also in mm.

Note, the diagram only shows 2 adjacent slits. There are hundreds in a grating, all equally spaced.

(edited 13 years ago)
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Original post by Stonebridge
You are given
dd, the "slit width", which for a grating they probably mean the grating spacing.
λ\lambda the wavelength of the light, and
θ\theta=14"55' for the 1st order diffraction.
The 1st order (where n=1) is the one where a single whole wavelength fits in the space AB in the diagram, causing the beams to be in phase and produce constructive interference; and a bright fringe.
The formula is nλ=dsinθ n\lambda = d sin \theta
The next angle given must be for the case where n=2 and there are two wavelengths difference between the beams.
For the question, you are just asked for how many lines per mm there are on the grating. As you are told in the question that the "slit width" is 0.83 micrometers, the number per mm is 1width\frac{1}{width} where the "width" is also in mm.

Note, the diagram only shows 2 adjacent slits. There are hundreds in a grating, all equally spaced.



]thank you so much, i have been ill latley and i couldn't really reply to you
i owe you so much
my teachers have not taught us and we have exams in january
you're impexxable knowldge serves well shared
Reply 3
Original post by Stonebridge
You are given
dd, the "slit width", which for a grating they probably mean the grating spacing.
λ\lambda the wavelength of the light, and
θ\theta=14"55' for the 1st order diffraction.
The 1st order (where n=1) is the one where a single whole wavelength fits in the space AB in the diagram, causing the beams to be in phase and produce constructive interference; and a bright fringe.
The formula is nλ=dsinθ n\lambda = d sin \theta
The next angle given must be for the case where n=2 and there are two wavelengths difference between the beams.
For the question, you are just asked for how many lines per mm there are on the grating. As you are told in the question that the "slit width" is 0.83 micrometers, the number per mm is 1width\frac{1}{width} where the "width" is also in mm.

Note, the diagram only shows 2 adjacent slits. There are hundreds in a grating, all equally spaced.



Stone, may i ask you a follow up?
what about part b on this
why isn't there a wave in the 3rd order or something of the sort?
tyvm
Original post by sixthformer
Stone, may i ask you a follow up?
what about part b on this
why isn't there a wave in the 3rd order or something of the sort?
tyvm


Actually, this question is a little more complicated than I first thought.
The question does give the slit width, not the grating spacing as I first suggested.
I should have read it more carefully. Sorry.
If you put the values given into the formula
nλ=dsinθn\lambda=d sin \theta
you will get d, the grating spacing, is 1.7 x 10-6 This is double the slit width.
What this means is that the grating has transparent slits that are rather wide, in this case, the transparent and opaque sections are of equal width. Normally the transparent slits would be less than half the width of the opaque.
What this means is, I think, that the second order bright fringe is not visible, as it occurs outside the central bright band of the diffraction pattern.
If you put n=2, you get the angle for the 2nd order to be about 30 degrees.
If you put n=3 you get the angle to be 50 deg 40 min as the question says.
This fringe occurs in the next, outer bright band of the pattern.
(edited 13 years ago)
Original post by Stonebridge
You are given
dd, the "slit width", which for a grating they probably mean the grating spacing.
λ\lambda the wavelength of the light, and
θ\theta=14"55' for the 1st order diffraction.
The 1st order (where n=1) is the one where a single whole wavelength fits in the space AB in the diagram, causing the beams to be in phase and produce constructive interference; and a bright fringe.
The formula is nλ=dsinθ n\lambda = d sin \theta
The next angle given must be for the case where n=2 and there are two wavelengths difference between the beams.
For the question, you are just asked for how many lines per mm there are on the grating. As you are told in the question that the "slit width" is 0.83 micrometers, the number per mm is 1width\frac{1}{width} where the "width" is also in mm.

Note, the diagram only shows 2 adjacent slits. There are hundreds in a grating, all equally spaced.


what does the bit in bold mean? xx
Original post by Qxi.xli
what does the bit in bold mean? xx

Wow this is from 10 years ago. :smile:
It's from the 2nd line in the original question and means
14 degrees 55 minutes
I should have written 14o 55'
Sorry for any confusion. :smile:
Reply 7
Original post by Qxi.xli
what does the bit in bold mean? xx


1 arcminute is a 60th of a degree
Original post by Stonebridge
Wow this is from 10 years ago. :smile:
It's from the 2nd line in the original question and means
14 degrees 55 minutes
I should have written 14o 55'
Sorry for any confusion. :smile:


Original post by Sinnoh
1 arcminute is a 60th of a degree

Thank you! I guess its not on the new spec because I'm not aware of it xx
Reply 9
Original post by Qxi.xli
Thank you! I guess its not on the new spec because I'm not aware of it xx


I think it only comes up in astronomy GCSE and the astrophysics option in A-level physics

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