Simon Cowell set for a knighthood... for "services to music"

I don't think a knighthood means very much these days.
It's devalued greatly judging by some of the people that have recieved them.

no but srs, why has Stephen Hawking not got a Knighthood yet for services to science and science popularisation? He even has a better voice than Cowell's singers FFS.

Simon Cowell is to receive a knighthood before Stephen Fry?

The world has TRULY gone mad.

If we ignore for a fact that the whole story this thread is based on is inaccurate, untrue and an attempt at stirring controversy, there is nothing wrong with recognising success, benevolence and philanthropy. That is essentially what the honours system does these days, recommended by the Government - not the Queen - as most people seem to forget.

It is patently clear you don't like Cowell's methods or the 'travestoes' he's unleashed on the country. That is merely your opinion. It is not fact. That someone has a different opinion to you is not so much of a jump of logic, surely? Sure, Cowell's made himself tens of millions of pounds off the back of the programme and his decades in the pop music industry before that, but he's also used his position to raise tens of millions for charities around the world. Recognition of that fact is liable to bring these causes again to the front of people's minds and again raise money. Is that really an occasion to be sneered at and mocked?

How is it inaccurate and untrue? I have no problem with recognising success, and if he was being given the award for his charity work then I wouldnt have a problem with it. I object to it because in my opinion he has done much more harm than good to the industry.

X factor is about marketing, not about talent. When the marketing money dries up then the artist is probably going to fail. Last years winners new single went in the chart in 70's-80's the other week.


Biffy's new album would have already been paid for, they are headlining festivals and playing wembly stadium now. They arent some tiny little band, they didnt need X factor.


X factor has been very bad for the music industry. Artists shouldnt be able to go on a tv show for a few weeks singing other peoples songs and then come out of it with a million pound record deal, and a team of song writers. All these people on the X factor would have been able to make it without it if they were good enough and put enough effort it.

To people really think that the likes of Jedward and JLS are good for music?

someone is surely having a laugh here

And if you must know, Simon Cowell now has precisely nothing to do with the careers of JLS nor Jedward.

Firstly, I'm quite interested in where you got this information from. Secondly, I'd like to remind you that his show set their careers up in the first place.

Well, JLS are signed to Epic and Jedward are signed to Universal. Simon has nothing to do with those labels.

I repeat my previous statement: His show set thier careers up in the first place.

Edit: damn, beaten.

Ignoring the fact that the original point I made was with regards to career involvement "now", I'll reply to your point: so what? The only reason they've been as successful as they have is the extent to which people like them. Jedward are a near nonentity now, and JLS are a successful boyband. I wouldn't expect you to be fawning over a boyband wherever they happened to come from, so why does it make a difference that they're an X Factor launched group? You're not their target market, so get over it.

Ignoring the fact that you never said anything about Cowell not being involved now or then...

...without him JLS might not have been successful, you would certainly hope they would not be seen as they cant sing or cant write songs. Jedward certainly wouldnt, and a nonentity? Put jedward in google news and there are literally hundreds of news articles about them this month.

"And if you must know, Simon Cowell now has precisely nothing to do with the careers of JLS nor Jedward."



As far as I'm aware JLS cowrote most of their most recent album, and they sing perfectly adequately. I'm not a fan and I don't own any of their music, but I'm not quite sure I understand this begrudging mentality. What difference does it make to you whether they release music and are successful or not? And saying "because it's all over the radio!!" doesn't count - if you don't like pop music you shouldn't be listening to Capital FM or the major Radio One shows in the first place.

Most of those Jedward articles are from crappy celebrity-spying blogs, which would report on every time Kerry Katona scratched her arse if they could. If you read those you deserve all the awful exposure to the likes of Jedward you get.

Ignoring the fact that the original point I made was with regards to career involvement "now"

Jedward are a near nonentity now, and JLS are a successful boyband.

so why does it make a difference that they're an X Factor launched group?

You're not their target market, so get over it.