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Reply 20
Original post by Swayum
How is 40-50% high for someone earning 100k a week when that same tax is applied to someone earning 200k a year?

They add no real productivity to our world besides entertainment (compared with a doctor, let's say). I am proposing that sportsmen should earn less than doctors per year, not just in UK, but around the world.

Some footballers earn between £220k and a reported £286k per week (latter being Tevez', unconfirmed though).

I think they deserve it, I get a lot more use/joy out of watching footballers than I do out of all the doctors in the world. I think they should be paid a lot, the tax status here should be fair (it is already too high, I think!) so as to encourage great players to come and play here, rather than force them away. We already lose players to Spain, where tax rate is lower, increasing the amount of money they take home. Increasing our tax rate would only exaggerate this problem.
Reply 21
No-one despises footballer salaries more than I do. There is a (valid) argument to suggest that the top footballers will **** off to Spain if we take any more of their cash, but I don't give a ****. Those that remain are the ones that actually want to be at the club. I'd love nothing more than to see football back to the way it was -- more locals lads filling up teams and wearing the shirt actually meaning something. The pampered lifestyle they have now is ridiculous. The players are so out-of-touch with the fans and they just couldn't give a **** about the success of a club unless it directly affects them. And, we, like ****in' idiots keep paying silly ticket prices just to watch their half-arsed apathy. Tax the **** out of the scum -- let them **** off, and we'll get real football back.
Reply 22
After the Jean-Marc Bosman case, players' wages hit the roof. There's realistically next to nothing anyone can do about it now. It's practically impossible.
They should be taxed 100%. That'll show them.
Original post by Swayum
You didn't read my last sentence. I'm saying that they wouldn't be able to get such a high salary ANYWHERE in the world. A sort of hypothetical world tax.


Obviously due to this point it's never actually going to happen, but still, I like your thinking. :smile:
Reply 25
Original post by M_E_X
Some footballers earn between £220k and a reported £286k per week (latter being Tevez', unconfirmed though).

I think they deserve it, I get a lot more use/joy out of watching footballers than I do out of all the doctors in the world. I think they should be paid a lot, the tax status here should be fair (it is already too high, I think!) so as to encourage great players to come and play here, rather than force them away. We already lose players to Spain, where tax rate is lower, increasing the amount of money they take home. Increasing our tax rate would only exaggerate this problem.


Are you insane? You are saying that a few hours watching football a week is worth more than the prospect of living a healthy life? Has anyone close to you ever got cancer? Have your grandparents died yet? Have you ever been to a dentist? Are you not concerned for your health when you turn 75ish?
Reply 26
They work in a 'luxury' industry, i.e. there's no need at all for people to pay them, but they do anyway. That's the fairest way you can earn money.

I'd tax people who make money from more essential things in order to pressure them into keeping prices down (make a tax that actually makes it not worth getting a pay rise if you earn a certain amount). Looking at energy companies, train companies etc.
Reply 27
People understand this logic with footballers, why don't they understand it with 'banker' bonuses and tax n banks...
Reply 28
Original post by loafer
People understand this logic with footballers, why don't they understand it with 'banker' bonuses and tax n banks...


The sums aren't really comparable. We're talking about a lot of these guys earning 50k+ a week.
Reply 29
Original post by loafer
People understand this logic with footballers, why don't they understand it with 'banker' bonuses and tax n banks...


That's essentially what my thread is getting at really. People bang on about bankers' bonuses who earn 300k a year or whatever. But these guys earn that in less than a month and for doing **** all according to the football I've been watching. I always imagined them to be super skilled when I didn't watch football, but recently I've been watching over 8 hours a day and they're rubbish!
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Reply 31
Original post by Swayum
That's essentially what my thread is getting at really. People bang on about bankers' bonuses who earn 300k a year or whatever. But these guys earn that in less than a month and for doing **** all according to the football I've been watching. I always imagined them to be super skilled when I didn't watch football, but recently I've been watching over 8 horus a day and they're rubbish!


Britain needs a scapegoat so they like to demonise bankers.

Give it time, won't be long till the British public will somehow find a way to blame sportsmen...then it'll be their salaries that come under fire :yep:
Original post by Swayum
You didn't read my last sentence. I'm saying that they wouldn't be able to get such a high salary ANYWHERE in the world. A sort of hypothetical world tax.


Yes, because it is hypothetical, that situation doesn't exist. Even so, a "low" salary would be more than a "high" one taxed at 80-90% (dependent on numbers).
It's not the footballer's fault that the economics of the football world is so crazy.
It definitely is not fair to effectively 'steal' from the footballers just because you are caught up with the stereotypical view of the modern footballer.
Despite the picture the tabloids paint of footballers, many of them do a lot of charity work/community initiatives etc. They have worked extremely hard to get to where they are today and you want to punish them for it?!
Reply 34
Original post by should be revising
It's not the footballer's fault that the economics of the football world is so crazy.
It definitely is not fair to effectively 'steal' from the footballers just because you are caught up with the stereotypical view of the modern footballer.
Despite the picture the tabloids paint of footballers, many of them do a lot of charity work/community initiatives etc. They have worked extremely hard to get to where they are today and you want to punish them for it?!


I'm not saying it's their fault. I am saying our governments should recognise this and fix the bad economics - that's what governments are for - to fix market inefficiencies.

I agree they work very hard, but so does everyone else. Their salaries are completely out of line with what they add to our lives relative to other professionals such as doctors.
We should tax jealousy.
the EU could tax them :awesome:
Do they wait until you get to third year to teach you about supply and demand?
Reply 38
Original post by rajandkwameali
We should tax jealousy.


I honestly do not care that I don't earn that much and I have no desire to play football. It's just such an outrageous amount man, I just think if the money went to the government we could fix so many other things that are much more needed, e.g. tuition fees.
Reply 39
Original post by Sabertooth
Do they wait until you get to third year to teach you about supply and demand?


No, but they also teach us about market inefficiencies and why taxes exist.

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